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    I think my AR 10 is fat! It tips the scales at 15 pounds. I'm new to the 308 world, Is this a normal weight? If not, what is normal?

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    M67

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    DPMS stuff (unless G2) are heavy, the receivers are super thick, the forearms have a TON of meat in them. Barrels.....depends. I had a AP4 for a while, carbine gas system, behind the gas block was stupid thick for what it is. DPMS style BCGs are just a touch heavier than AR10 style

    My POF P308, with suppressor, Magpul PRS, Nightforce NXS, 20" barrel, weighed 15 pounds empty. Took the PRS and Nightforce off, shaved a ton of weight off it. The stock and optic add a good amount of weight too.

    Weights on the 308 ARs fluctuate, pre optic (and depending on stock), 9lbs+

    308s are just big
     

    Kmaroman

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    Once you start throwing stuff on it, it starts adding up. I have an r25 built to the gills for accuracy, I even put a Troy vtac sling on it to carry in the woods from time to time. When I got older though I understood and appreciated a no frills rifle, I came across someone's lr308 build and got it for $925 it was a basic build and it had some nice Troy sights on it would shoot well to. Wound up trading for my current truck with cash and that guys wife didn't like it in the house so another friend bought and well if I could buy it back today I would. I guess my point is build guns specific to what you wanna do instead of an all arounder
     

    roscott

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    15 pounds is pretty hefty, but if it is for a precision distance rifle (as yours appears to be) that's not really a problem. I've always felt that heavier means steadier, so if it's designed to reach out, weight is okay.
     

    Psode27

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    Most everything I own probably could shed a few lbs.... including myself. I say embrace the weight! I'd lose the quad rail if you arent using it for anything (or dont intend to). Thats just me though. looks good to me!
     

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    The rail, bipod, PRS stock, scope, and target grip all add a considerable amount of weight to it. I would re-evaluate the needs of those to determine if the juice is worth the squeeze.
     

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    So, tell us about the shooting trip. It's a viper PST? We need info man, details.......
     

    HHollow

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    Just like with people, AR10 rifles seem to have added more poundage over time.

    The first generation Dutch AR10 rifles weighed less than 7 pounds. This low weight
    was accomplished in part by massive fluting of the barrel.

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    So, tell us about the shooting trip. It's a viper PST? We need info man, details.......

    Yes, 6-24x50 FFP. Stock (for now) DPMS. First thing to go is the horrible trigger. I was trying to figure out how to rig a come along to it. Then, maybe the quad rail...
     

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    Yes, 6-24x50 FFP. Stock (for now) DPMS. First thing to go is the horrible trigger. I was trying to figure out how to rig a come along to it. Then, maybe the quad rail...

    Im a fan of the scope, that's what I have on my 700. I have no doubt you'll get the trigger straightened out. What trigger are you thinking about?
     

    Mgderf

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    Yeah, my DPMS Gen 1 LRT .308 is a tank, and it feels like one when you drag it around.
    I just built a PA10 to take into the woods. It feels like it's half the weight of the DPMS.
     

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    Yeah, my DPMS Gen 1 LRT .308 is a tank, and it feels like one when you drag it around.
    I just built a PA10 to take into the woods. It feels like it's half the weight of the DPMS.

    What kind of groups are you getting? Bench? Prone? Distance?
     

    Mgderf

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    What kind of groups are you getting? Bench? Prone? Distance?

    With which one?
    Actually, it's a moot point.
    The DPMS has less than 100 rounds through it, but I've manged 1.5 MOA at 100 yards. Haven't stretched it out any further yet.

    The PA10 has yet to be fired...
     

    Mgderf

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    That's what I got with mine. I'm new to this, is that what I should expect?

    That was out of the box, with factory ammo, and not really being serious about it.
    I would expect to be able to half that if I used match-grade or better ammunition and more trigger time.
     

    LarryC

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    Haven't weighed mine but I bet it is north of 15 lb. I have the DPMS upper with SS bull barrel, Vortex scope, Walnut furniture, bipod etc. I didn't assemble it with intention of carrying it through the woods, but more for long range shooting. I really am just breaking in the barrel yet, shot the first 25 round, cleaned between each shot, then shooting 10 round and cleaning. From what I have seen it should be under 1 MOA, but really haven't shot groups enough to prove it out.
     

    sgreen3

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    Ha ha yup every LR308 I've had weighs a ton, even the LR308 carbine I had was heavy. I think its just the way their made. Which is what has me wanting one of the GII models now. Their suppose to be a bit on the lighter side.
     
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