ar -15 drop in auto sear

[Sparky03]

Now what if you own a r.r. and u want to use a dias to make the gun run is that a no no?

 

[ryknoll3]

Now what if you own a r.r. and u want to use a dias to make the gun run is that a no no?

Yes, that would be illegal. Because the DIAS is considered a machine gun by itself you would have two machine guns, one of them unregistered.

This is similar to the HK platform if you had a registered sear and decided to drill a hole in your receiver for a swing-down lower. Because ATF considers a receiver with a front pin hole drilled as a machine gun, you would be in possession of two machine guns, even if with the parts you have, only one gun runs full auto.

 

[Kenny87ky]

I've heard that the DIAS sold in shotgun news is out of spec and still need some machining to actually fit in a DIAS compatible firearm. Since the device would still need to be altered to be function as a DIAS, its just a hunk of metal, till you make it fit. This is just a theory based on previous threads I have read in the past.

Perhaps someone should contact them and try to get an answer, if there is a legal loophole they are going though then they should have no problem explaining why its ok to buy one.

 

[DownByTheTracks]

I've heard that the DIAS sold in shotgun news is out of spec and still need some machining to actually fit in a DIAS compatible firearm. Since the device would still need to be altered to be function as a DIAS, its just a hunk of metal, till you make it fit. This is just a theory based on previous threads I have read in the past.

Perhaps someone should contact them and try to get an answer, if there is a legal loophole they are going though then they should have no problem explaining why its ok to buy one.

If it's more than 80% complete it's still a reservation package to Club Fed.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

If it[STRIKE]'s more than 80% complete[/STRIKE] functions as a machine gun or can be redily made to function as a machine gun it's still a reservation package to Club Fed.

FTFY

There's no such thing as 0%, 50%, or 80%. It is or it isn't.

DIAS aren't attached to the receiver and have to be timed to the receiver. do it wrong and your weapon can go KB. If it slides around even a few thousands of an inch your weapon could go KB. Using one seems like a bad idea to me.

 

[ryknoll3]

FTFY

There's no such thing as 0%, 50%, or 80%. It is or it isn't.

DIAS aren't attached to the receiver and have to be timed to the receiver. do it wrong and your weapon can go KB. If it slides around even a few thousands of an inch your weapon could go KB. Using one seems like a bad idea to me.

Lots of people use them all the time with no ill effects. It's not as dangerous as you claim. KB's are not that common on AR's/M16's. They do happen, but in 99.9% of cases, a mis-timed DIAS causes function problems, not explosions.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Lots of people use them all the time with no ill effects. It's not as dangerous as you claim. KB's are not that common on AR's/M16's. They do happen, but in 99.9% of cases, a mis-timed DIAS causes function problems, not explosions.

I'm not claiming it's dangerous, however - there are very tight tolerances in firearms to ensure it functions as designed. When parts break or wear, those tolerances are not met and sometimes with catastopic results. Stone a trigger too much and it may fail and strike the hammer without being pulled. Putting a piece of metal into a receiver and relying on its location when clamped into place between the lower and upper reciever seems like bad mojo to me. Not saying it won't work, or I wouldn't use one in a pinch - just that it seems like a bad idea.

Who wants to be that 0.1% where it does KB?

 

[DownByTheTracks]

FTFY

There's no such thing as 0%, 50%, or 80%. It is or it isn't.

DIAS aren't attached to the receiver and have to be timed to the receiver. do it wrong and your weapon can go KB. If it slides around even a few thousands of an inch your weapon could go KB. Using one seems like a bad idea to me.

Thanks for the correction.