Armor

[agentl074]

Does anyone have personal armor for SHTF?
What kinds of armor do you have in your alert gear?

When I outprocessed from my base after my term, I had to turn in my Kevlar helmet and Level III+ vest and plates.
Since then I purchased a Level IIIA vest with level IV plates as well as the Kevlar helmet.

I like to think that I may never have to use that kind of armor - but its better to play it safe.

Man I just remember the Level III+ plates weighing a lot less than these IV plates I know the Level III+ was rated for 7.62 NATO and the IV was rated for .30-06 Armor Piercing though.

Does anyone know much about the Dragon Skin armor? I heard they failed NIJ testing awhile back when the DOD wanted them.

 

[rhino]

I've been thinking about this for a few years now, but it's been a fiscal impossibility since I'll need both the panels and carrier(s) custom made to fit me. When I achieve a financial status that will allow it, finding someone who can make armor for me will be my #1 objective.

 

[paulgl26]

i have a level 2a
try to buy used leo body armor
i got mine for 150$

 

[Shay]

I think it's important to have a shield if you are going to carry a sword.

With that said, wearing armor sucks. I'm sure getting shot sucks worse though.

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

i have a level 2a
try to buy used leo body armor
i got mine for 150$

Not sure I want to buy "used" armor....

 

[Hoosier8]

Not sure I want to buy "used" armor....

Why not? So long as it doesn't have holes in it!

 

[Vigilant]

Why not? So long as it doesn't have holes in it!

Depending on the bullet resistant material used, it sometimes breaks down over time, when wet, when folded or creased, etc. If you're gonna buy armor, buy it new.

 

[rhino]

Old armor has other uses, though. You can use it behind your aiming point when you dry fire, or as an aiming point when you load/unload your gun in your house.

 

[Vigilant]

Old armor has other uses, though. You can use it behind your aiming point when you dry fire, or as an aiming point when you load/unload your gun in your house.

True, but I thought they were talking about buying used armor to wear?

 

[Chefcook]

Not to long ago Dragon skin was featured on Future Weapons. Its apparently very lightweight and flexable. In their test they fired ( I don't remember exact round count but recall it was allot of each caliber) 7.62, 5.56, and 9mm at the vest. All fired at 25 feet. None penetrated. Then to take the test further they placed a fragmentation hand grenade under the vest weighted with a sandbag. No shrapnal from the grenade penetrated the vest. However they made it very clear the concussion would have killed the wearer. According to this test the Dragon skin was far supirior to current US issue. I heard from a milatry source that it was rejected because it was too expencive. If I were in need I would probably choose the Dragon Skin....JC

 

[rhino]

True, but I thought they were talking about buying used armor to wear?

I think you're right. I was just trying to be mister helper with the "in case you bought it anyway" deal.

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

I think you're right. I was just trying to be mister helper with the "in case you bought it anyway" deal.

Thank you Helpy Helperton!

 

[Chefcook]

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[jedi]

BulletProofME.com Body Armor / Bullet proof Vests

The website above does custom fitting for those of you that were looking into this.
They have all sort of armor types.
I started lookig into this but sadly i'm not money-wise to the point where I can get this item. There are so many other items that are on te list before this that are a bit more critical. =(

ps.
Side note it appears that the DRAGON SKIN armor is only for MIL and LEO.
Based on a quick glance of the website and looking/trying to get a price quote.

 

[shooter521]

My armor setup consists of an Eagle plate carrier with Level IIIA soft inserts and a set of Famostone (compressed polyethylene) Level III hard plates. The poly plates are a little bulky, given their rectangular single-curve shape and 1" thickness, but man are they light (3.3lbs each)!

Armor is for more than just SHTF; many advanced carbine courses require it during shoot house exercises.

 

[Chefcook]

Saw this on another forum thought it was funny

"So why is the military so reluctant to issue it to U.S. solders?"

My guess is that acquiring dragon skin is not the most economical route (plus it's also a pain in the ass to skin dragons). I would imagine hunting dragons down for their skins would be pretty hazardous. The military would have better luck just dropping dragons down on their intended target - let the bad guys deal with the dragons instead, and no risk to soldier's lives. Of course, once the bad guys manage to drop a dragon, they'll have easy access to dragon skin which means we're screwed.

 

[agentl074]

"So why is the military so reluctant to issue it to U.S. solders?"

My guess is that acquiring dragon skin is not the most economical route (plus it's also a pain in the ass to skin dragons). I would imagine hunting dragons down for their skins would be pretty hazardous. The military would have better luck just dropping dragons down on their intended target - let the bad guys deal with the dragons instead, and no risk to soldier's lives. Of course, once the bad guys manage to drop a dragon, they'll have easy access to dragon skin which means we're screwed.

Hmm excellent point

 

[38special]

"So why is the military so reluctant to issue it to U.S. solders?"

My guess is that acquiring dragon skin is not the most economical route (plus it's also a pain in the ass to skin dragons). I would imagine hunting dragons down for their skins would be pretty hazardous. The military would have better luck just dropping dragons down on their intended target - let the bad guys deal with the dragons instead, and no risk to soldier's lives. Of course, once the bad guys manage to drop a dragon, they'll have easy access to dragon skin which means we're screwed.

That got me laughing out loud and not much online does

 

[Sailor]

I have a set of used interceptor armor I use when training and for when shtf. Manufactured in 2005, level III but no plates. It came in ACU. Got it for like 60 bucks. If its ok for the military its ok for me.

 

[Disposable Heart]

Mine is just the regular ol' Level 2 from Point Blank. If I need rifle plates, I have them, but I feel the biggest armor is the armor of distance and common sense. Staying away from situations that require armor is king. For those situations one cannot escape from, I always keep it in the trunk.

For all of those considering purchase: Most of the LEOs and other armor wearers will accolade the triumph of wicking shirts underneath. I used to wear the vest under a light jacket on cold days as it traps in so much heat. The "ribbed shirts" I have seen and bought dont seem to work well for me, but any of the Underarmor or cheap knock off shirts work wonders in keeping me dry and cool with the cursed thing on.