Army Corp of Engineers Properties

[Titanium_Frost]

It's a sticking point, but easily argued. They make rules for a reason and the ACoE doesn't define loaded in their code. I wonder if it could be argued that since IC doesn't apply to ACoE property than neither does this definition.

FINALLY...us panty wastes that carry empty chambered are the smart ones!

Lastly, I love that the acronym for I Am Not A Lawyer is always, in my mind, read as:

I ANAL

While it is true that the IC does not govern the ACoE properties it does still apply since it IS still Indiana soil and not owned by the feds.

I would never call someone who carries with an empty chamber smart- but that is a different thread.

I figure anyone typing out enough law code to be confused as a lawyer while they are not probably IS anal so it fits either way.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Let me just say that in practice, any followers of the Four Rules should know that the gun is ALWAYS loaded!

 

[Arickosmo]

No it aint...watch



BANG!


Thud

 

[KG1]

It's a sticking point, but easily argued. They make rules for a reason and the ACoE doesn't define loaded in their code. I wonder if it could be argued that since IC doesn't apply to ACoE property than neither does this definition.

FINALLY...us panty wastes that carry empty chambered are the smart ones!

Lastly, I love that the acronym for I Am Not A Lawyer is always, in my mind, read as:

I ANAL

I think the, "what constitutes loaded?" issue in this case is a moot point because according to ACOE regs you cannot even possess ammunition unless it is exempt under certain conditions.

§ 327.13 Explosives, firearms, other weapons and fireworks.
(a) The possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other
weapons is prohibited unless:
(1) In the possession of a Federal, state or local law enforcement officer;
(2) Being used for hunting or fishing as permitted under §327.8, with devices being unloaded when transported to, from or
between hunting and fishing sites;
(3) Being used at authorized shooting ranges; or
(4) Written permission has been received from the District Commander.
(b) Possession of explosives or explosive devices of any kind, including fireworks or other pyrotechnics, is prohibited unless
written permission has been received from the District Commander.

 

[marv]

SR 66 runs thru Corps property at the Cannelton Dam and alongside the Newburgh Dam. We can't even stop in and use their (our) facilities while carrying.

 

[abraham743]

So if I can carry while hunting ...... I guess it is coyote or crow season a large portion of the year. I have had many encounters with co's while camping and hunting on acoe managed properties, all have been positive and I was carrying every time. I was never even asked if I had a ltch. Guess I have been fortunate

 

[Arickosmo]

FWIW, I uh know someone who lost a firearm on ACoE property. It was returned unquestioned, other than ownership via serial #. I'm not totally convinced that
DNR is aware of this ACoE law or that they simply don't care.

Trolls enjoy, and I'll ignore you anyway. If you're here, and you believe as I do that a GUN is a tool, yet you troll...well, I hope you're a better shot than I am.

 

[Hotdoger]

necro posting is so much fun.

 

[KG1]

FWIW, I uh know someone who lost a firearm on ACoE property. It was returned unquestioned, other than ownership via serial #. I'm not totally convinced that
DNR is aware of this ACoE law or that they simply don't care.

Trolls enjoy, and I'll ignore you anyway. If you're here, and you believe as I do that a GUN is a tool, yet you troll...well, I hope you're a better shot than I am.

 

[dnurk]

necro posting is so much fun.

Yeah, I was hoping for some game changing news like the ACoE director was suddenly granting written permissions on request

 

[GIJEW]

I just stumbled across this thread. I think the letter campaign out to be to our congressmen. It's one thing to prohibit carrying on military bases, courts, 'sterile' parts of airports, but to criminalize carrying in places like lake Monroe is BULL****! If the 2A applies to any branch of gov't it's the fed. govt. This is a clear case of unconstitutional over-reach that wrongly puts citizens in jeopardy. Those asshats always seem to forget that they're supposed to be public servants--not the other way around!

 

[firecadet613]

Any updates on this? Tempting to move the boat to Monroe...but not if I can't carry.

 

[Hawkeye]

This again?

 

[walleyepw]

Interesting, have any request been answered?

 

[Hawkeye]

Yes. Last August someone got a denial. I think they postd the letter, but it doesn't seem to appear anymore.

 

[CathyInBlue]

Anything since the supposed Jan. 10, 2014 nationwide injunction against the ACOE?

 

[TippecanoeSportsman]

Does anyone know who the correct contact person would be for LBL in KY? I assume they would be based out the Louisville office, but I could not turn up a name and contact info. I'll be down there next week and would be interested to see if they are still willing to "look the other way" or if the injunction out west has had any influence.