There was once a scenario proposed on INGO where you were on a walk with you wife and young child. Young child is riding his/her bike with training wheels or whatever and gets up ahead of the group about 50 yds or so. All of the sudden car pulls up, grabs child and tries to flee.
What do you do?
You sure the heck won't be running the other way...
While long pistol shots are VERY VERY VERY unlikely, they aren't completely outside of the realm of possibility.
I'll just leave this here....
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...vehicle_at_50yds_with_a_pistol_pics_vids.html
Here is a real world shooting incident that happened on an USAF Base. In 1994 at Fairchild AFB in Spokane Washington the AF was getting ready to discharge a young man because of Psychiatric reasons. He showed up at the base hospital with a MAK 90. He deliberately targeted his Dr then started shooting up everyone in sight. 5 killed 23 wounded. As the AF Security Police were responding a lone patrolman on a bicycle patrol raced for a mile and started to deploy onto the scene when the shooter came out of the building. The AF Security Policeman dropped prone and immediately engaged at a distance of 73 yards. AMN Brown shot 4 rounds striking the gunman 3 times killing him.
A hero
If that link does not work try this and also "view related story"
Looking back: Fairchild shootings - Spokesman Mobile - June 17, 2010
As a side note ever since the Beretta M9 was adopted from the Model 15 revolver in 1988 by the USAF all AF SP personnel carried it with a round in the chamber and weapon on fire with a 15 round mag in the gun and spare 15 round mag on the belt. In 1999 because of this and several other shootings on AF bases the Chief security Forces got with JAG and was cleared to issue 9mm 124 grain JHP rounds for use and issue for all Security Forces at stateside bases in their M9 handguns. JAG ruled using JHP at stateside duty stations was not a violation of the Hague treaty since they are performing a LE duty. When you deploy you revert to ball ammo. M16 and M4's are still issued with FMJ ball ammo.
If you think it is wise to take a 50yd shot with your child in very close proximity to the target then go for it. There is absolutely no way I would take that shot.
No need to argue about it in this thread, its certainly a bad scenario all-around, but I certainly wasn't proposing shooting the person that has your child in their arms...If you think it is wise to take a 50yd shot with your child in very close proximity to the target then go for it. There is absolutely no way I would take that shot.
No need to argue about it in this thread, its certainly a bad scenario all-around, but I certainly wasn't proposing shooting the person that has your child in their arms...
If you want to see the discussion on it look for the thread... IIRC Esrice did a "test" to compare if running toward the threat or taking a supported position to shoot would be better...
After all, why not take some long shots too? It's all practice.
The significant majority (70%) of targets at my local action pistol matches (USPSA, IDPA, three-gun, outlaw) are 5-15 yds from the shooter. About 10% are closer, about 10% are farther. When I'm on the road to other matches, I see about the same ratio (some vary close, some very far, most mid-distance). The stages or scenarios at action pistol matches usually change match-to-match; so the very long distance target you say last month is unlikely to repeat itself in the next.A friend of mine was giving me crap for not shooting in the Action Pistol event recently. I told him that I really didn't like the 50yd shots as I thought they were of no use to me as far as training goes.
What are your thoughts about the long shots in Action Pistol in regards to training?