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Australians having a change of heart on gun control?!
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So Abbott wants Australians to be as safe as the government can make them???
How about restoring Australians' natural rights so they can take responsibility for their own safety?
I think that it's just recently been proven (if they already didn't know) that the government can't always be there to protect it's people!
Careful now, you'll make a Liberal cry with statement!
Did you read the article? "Sen. David Leyonhjelm of Australia’s Liberal Democratic Party said the siege by the lone jihadi-inspired gunman this week would have been less likely if Australians were free to arm themselves."
CathyInBlue
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How do Aussie political factions map onto American political factions? Surely the label "Liberal Democrat" does not cross the Pacific unmolested.
As is usually the case overseas the word "liberal" more closely equates to libertarian. These guys aren't leftists. They're more libertarianish, or classical liberal than anything else. Too many Americans tend to get stuck on words and think they mean the same thing outside of our sphere.
Liberal Democratic Party (Australia) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What is the psychology behind why they feel the gunman being on welfare had anything to do with why it was absurd that he got a gun permit? Hmmm, is it because deep down (if not subconsciously) most people realize, excuse me I mean think 
, that being on welfare means "we" or the gov. can control you more? Or is it the idea that they have a society that only a select few should be owning guns so why would someone that is poor be able to make that list. Elitist much?!
They need more words like "all people" and "we the people" in their Gov. make up.
Complaints about where we are going aside....'MERICA!
, that being on welfare means "we" or the gov. can control you more? Or is it the idea that they have a society that only a select few should be owning guns so why would someone that is poor be able to make that list. Elitist much?! They need more words like "all people" and "we the people" in their Gov. make up.
Complaints about where we are going aside....'MERICA!
sparkyfender
Master
It is my understanding that Australia has never allowed for the carrying of weapons by citizens in public, even before the days of the Brisbane massacre and the restrictions in the aftermath.
Then again, I could be wrong.
It seems to me the general consensus there seems to be the old standard "How did he get a firearm permit?" not "We need more honest citizens that are armed."
Then again, I could be wrong.
It seems to me the general consensus there seems to be the old standard "How did he get a firearm permit?" not "We need more honest citizens that are armed."
Or maybe part of it is because we change our language for effect.
Sorry. I guess I had the American Liberal in mind.
I wouldn't expect anything to change in OZ as a result of this tragedy. I'm sure the anti's will just want to double-down and pass even more restrictive laws against firearms. Their argument will follow standard liberal-leftist dogma about it all being about "peace and safety" and in order to make a more perfect Australia that every gun must be eradicated.
Indeed.
The term liberal doesn't have the same meaning in the rest of the world that it does here.
What is the psychology behind why they feel the gunman being on welfare had anything to do with why it was absurd that he got a gun permit? Hmmm, is it because deep down (if not subconsciously) most people realize, excuse me I mean think
They need more words like "all people" and "we the people" in their Gov. make up.
Complaints about where we are going aside....'MERICA!
I think it's more along the lines of thinking here. "Oh, you have an iphone. Why do you need to be on welfare?" There it's "Oh, you have a gun. Why do you need to be on welfare?"
I do not think their Liberal Democratic Party has the same political platform as our Liberal Democratic Party, but I might be wrong.
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