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  • BloodEclipse

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    April 27, 2010 Ban the Income Tax

    By Vasko Kohlmayer

    [FONT=times new roman,times]It is a truly tragic development that in America -- a country founded on the principle of the inviolability of private property -- half of us prey on the substance of our neighbors.
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    [FONT=times new roman,times]A striking 37-second [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]video[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] moment made it to the internet last week.[/FONT]


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    [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]It was taken at a demonstration of public-sector unions in Springfield, Illinois marching in support of the proposed tax increases in that state. The clip features a public school teacher, an African-American lady, who carries a couple of placards while shouting: "Where is the money? Where is the money? ... Give up the bucks! Where is the cash? We need it fast!"[/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]The video is an eye-opening illustration of what taxes are ultimately about: Americans helping themselves to the property of other Americans.[/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]According to the latest data, almost half of all Americans pay no federal income tax . Commenting on this fact, nationally syndicated columnist Phyllis Schlafly recently [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]observed[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] that April 15 "now divides Americans into two almost equal classes: those who pay for the services provided by government and the freeloaders."[/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]"Freeloaders" is not, however, an altogether fitting term, since freeloaders merely take advantage of propitious circumstances. In a free-for-all democracy, on the other hand, many non-payers or net tax-consumers purposefully vote for those who promise to give them of their neighbors' substance. What these people do is, in effect, stealing. They are thieves, and it matters not that the theft in which they participate is state-sanctioned. After all, what name other than "thieves" can describe those who forcefully deprive others of their money in order to enrich themselves? [/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]If the lady in the video wants to enrich herself at others' expense, she should be forced to do it the old fashioned way: by breaking into someone's house. Sadly, these days, she does not have to summon even that much initiative. She can simply vote for a politician who will do the dirty deed for her. If a thief gets caught with a couple of thousand dollars' worth of stolen goods, the chances are that he will end up in jail, humiliated and despised. Those, however, who vote for politicians who deprive productive citizens of tens of thousands of dollars every year never despise themselves. Quite the contrary: They consider themselves progressive, socially conscious, or enlightened. [/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]The income tax brings out the worst in human nature. Anyone watching the video can get a strong sense of this truth. And even though most of those pushing for higher taxes are not as crass and guileless as the featured lady, their sentiments and views are essentially the same. It is part and parcel of our fallen nature that we often covet the wealth and good things of others. This is why it has always been necessary for people in every society to guard and protect their possessions from the rapacity of their fellows. Income tax not only gives this ugly aspect of human character a free hand, but it passes it off as something good and noble. In a perverse twist of mass democracy, the thieves and their elected abettors are lauded as just crusaders for social and economic justice while their victims are condemned as selfish, uncaring, and despicable.
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    [FONT=times new roman,times]Upon watching the video, most people will think that the way to deal with this problem is to clip the wings of the unions, or perhaps to reform the tax code. Those of a more radical bent may even call for adjustments to the electoral process. The incisive Walter Williams, for example, [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]recommends[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] that people should have voting power in proportion to the amount of taxes they pay. Here is how he puts it:[/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]I'm suggesting is that every American gets one vote in every federal election, plus another vote for each $20,000 he pays in federal taxes . With such a system, there'd be a modicum of linkage between one's financial stake in our country and his decision-making right.[/FONT]
    [FONT=times new roman,times]Well-intentioned and ingenious though they may be, such reforms would be very difficult to implement in practice. Fortunately, it is not necessary to get involved in complicated schemes to combat the evils and injustice inherent in income tax. There is a far simpler and better way. Moral abomination that it is, the income tax should be done away with altogether.[/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]The fact that this notion may seem radical, even to those who consider themselves constitutional conservatives, shows the depth to which we have fallen. Most of us do not realize that the Constitution was written in such a way as to exclude the possibility of imposing direct taxes. The Founders in their wisdom were all too aware of the dangers inherent in such revenue-raising measures. The federal income tax is thus a relatively new phenomenon. It was instituted only in 1913 by the Sixteenth Amendment. Almost immediately after its ratification, however, it began spawning the very evils the Founders had sought to keep in check. Bestselling author Thomas DiLorenzo [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]observes[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] that together with the Federal Reserve , which was established in the same year, income tax[/FONT]

    [FONT=times new roman,times]centralized all political power in Washington, as it became trivially easy for the central state to conscript millions of men for its wars, spend mind-boggling sums on things like a welfare state and the nationalization of education that have no constitutional authority whatsoever, and to easily bribe any state government that voices the least bit of dissent by threatening to withdraw federal grants to the state. More than half of the American population is bribed and manipulated in a similar manner today as recipients of myriad federal subsidies.[/FONT]
    [FONT=times new roman,times]The income tax is an odious institution that subverts the moral underpinning of our society. It does so by inflaming rapaciousness in the American people and by turning us into a band of sanctimonious thieves. Income tax is also the main source of sustenance for Federal Leviathan and the mainspring of power for redistributionist politicians. Income tax violates the founding principles of this nation as well as our transcendent sense of what is right and fair. There can be no just and equitable society where income tax is in operation. We Americans must stop robbing each other. We must ban the federal income tax. [/FONT]



    If Americans had to write a check each week for their income taxes, they might then understand how much they actually pay. I think the typical American never really pays to how much comes out of their check. At tax time the total amount of taxes paid doesn't register with them. They are only concerned about how much of a return they will get or what they owe. I would love to see an end to the income tax.
     

    jclark

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    Good post.
    I have always thought we should get rid of all other taxes and just have a large sales tax on everything.
    That way....no matter if you're a drug dealer, illegally in this country, or a "freeloader", you're still paying as much in taxes as I am.
     

    Prometheus

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    First consider this: The USA went for over 140+ years without a federal income tax or direct tax on it's citizens. In 2013 we 'celebrate' the 100th anniversary of the federal income tax and the irs. I think it's time to roll back the clock to 1912. We need to abolish the IRS and Federal income tax instead of celebrate it.

    Good post.
    I have always thought we should get rid of all other taxes and just have a large sales tax on everything.
    That way....no matter if you're a drug dealer, illegally in this country, or a "freeloader", you're still paying as much in taxes as I am.

    First it's important to delinate between taxes that pay for services and wealth redistribution.

    There should be NO direct federal taxes on US Citizens. PERIOD. Anyone who doubts this look at the US Constituion. FWIW The USSC has ruled that the 16th amendment gives "no additional taxing authority to congress." Even if it did, we got along just fine without one for 140+ years and we can do so once again.

    A national sales tax or a VAT is nothing more than the government depriving you of your property and right to aquire property. Can anyone honestly try and justify this PRIVILEGE TAX? Is it a privilege the federal government gives me in order to buy food, clothing, shelter for myself and family?!?!?! Just as a federal income tax is a tax on your property (you labor being recognized as your own personal property for centuries of US/English jurisprudence).

    Right now congress wants to tax banks for their "risky lending" (which congress encouraged and supported)... anyone who thinks that tax won't be passed directly to the consumers is an idiot... at best.

    So now that we have determined that any federal tax directly on the citizens (be it income, sales tax or vat schemes) shouldn't is wrong, lets move on. The federal government can (and does) get plenty of money from import and export tarrifs and duties.

    Point number two, any State or local taxes need to be applied for services actually used. I.e. any and all road monies should come from taxation on (most easily applied) gasoline and diesel sales and so forth.

    Anything else is wealth redistribution. It is socialist and it is immoral.

    I find it extremely disturbing that so many "conservatives" want a national sale tax or vat. WTF is wrong with them? Why do they want the federal government stealing from us? Taking of one persons property and giving it to someone else is theft. I don't care if they cops sent by black robed thugs at the behest of some oath violating legislator. Theft is theft.

    Certain things the government provides (and should) such as roads are important and the people who USE THEM should pay for them. As it stands hardly any taxes are used for there intended purposes and generally go for wealth redistribution.
     

    jclark

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    First consider this: The USA went for over 140+ years without a federal income tax or direct tax on it's citizens. In 2013 we 'celebrate' the 100th anniversary of the federal income tax and the irs. I think it's time to roll back the clock to 1912. We need to abolish the IRS and Federal income tax instead of celebrate it.



    First it's important to delinate between taxes that pay for services and wealth redistribution.

    There should be NO direct federal taxes on US Citizens. PERIOD. Anyone who doubts this look at the US Constituion. FWIW The USSC has ruled that the 16th amendment gives "no additional taxing authority to congress." Even if it did, we got along just fine without one for 140+ years and we can do so once again.

    A national sales tax or a VAT is nothing more than the government depriving you of your property and right to aquire property. Can anyone honestly try and justify this PRIVILEGE TAX? Is it a privilege the federal government gives me in order to buy food, clothing, shelter for myself and family?!?!?! Just as a federal income tax is a tax on your property (you labor being recognized as your own personal property for centuries of US/English jurisprudence).

    Right now congress wants to tax banks for their "risky lending" (which congress encouraged and supported)... anyone who thinks that tax won't be passed directly to the consumers is an idiot... at best.

    So now that we have determined that any federal tax directly on the citizens (be it income, sales tax or vat schemes) shouldn't is wrong, lets move on. The federal government can (and does) get plenty of money from import and export tarrifs and duties.

    Point number two, any State or local taxes need to be applied for services actually used. I.e. any and all road monies should come from taxation on (most easily applied) gasoline and diesel sales and so forth.

    Anything else is wealth redistribution. It is socialist and it is immoral.

    I find it extremely disturbing that so many "conservatives" want a national sale tax or vat. WTF is wrong with them? Why do they want the federal government stealing from us? Taking of one persons property and giving it to someone else is theft. I don't care if they cops sent by black robed thugs at the behest of some oath violating legislator. Theft is theft.

    Certain things the government provides (and should) such as roads are important and the people who USE THEM should pay for them. As it stands hardly any taxes are used for there intended purposes and generally go for wealth redistribution.

    Don't get me wrong....I completely agree.
    They're not gonna get rid of taxes though.
    I'd settle for the sales tax.....at least the folks I mentioned in my last post would be paying taxes as well.
     

    BloodEclipse

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    First consider this: The USA went for over 140+ years without a federal income tax or direct tax on it's citizens. In 2013 we 'celebrate' the 100th anniversary of the federal income tax and the irs. I think it's time to roll back the clock to 1912. We need to abolish the IRS and Federal income tax instead of celebrate it.



    First it's important to delinate between taxes that pay for services and wealth redistribution.

    There should be NO direct federal taxes on US Citizens. PERIOD. Anyone who doubts this look at the US Constituion. FWIW The USSC has ruled that the 16th amendment gives "no additional taxing authority to congress." Even if it did, we got along just fine without one for 140+ years and we can do so once again.

    A national sales tax or a VAT is nothing more than the government depriving you of your property and right to aquire property. Can anyone honestly try and justify this PRIVILEGE TAX? Is it a privilege the federal government gives me in order to buy food, clothing, shelter for myself and family?!?!?! Just as a federal income tax is a tax on your property (you labor being recognized as your own personal property for centuries of US/English jurisprudence).

    Right now congress wants to tax banks for their "risky lending" (which congress encouraged and supported)... anyone who thinks that tax won't be passed directly to the consumers is an idiot... at best.

    So now that we have determined that any federal tax directly on the citizens (be it income, sales tax or vat schemes) shouldn't is wrong, lets move on. The federal government can (and does) get plenty of money from import and export tarrifs and duties.

    Point number two, any State or local taxes need to be applied for services actually used. I.e. any and all road monies should come from taxation on (most easily applied) gasoline and diesel sales and so forth.

    Anything else is wealth redistribution. It is socialist and it is immoral.

    I find it extremely disturbing that so many "conservatives" want a national sale tax or vat. WTF is wrong with them? Why do they want the federal government stealing from us? Taking of one persons property and giving it to someone else is theft. I don't care if they cops sent by black robed thugs at the behest of some oath violating legislator. Theft is theft.

    Certain things the government provides (and should) such as roads are important and the people who USE THEM should pay for them. As it stands hardly any taxes are used for there intended purposes and generally go for wealth redistribution.

    The more I think about it, the more I'm against a Federal sales tax. It seems it has always been incredibly hard to remove anything that is of the government's making. We didn't get where we are over night so maybe we lay out a list of taxes (in all forms whether they are called taxes, fees, licenses etc.) and start repealing them if they fall into the direct tax category. Work our way back until all direct taxes have been abolished.
    I was a proponent of a National Sales Tax with the elimination of all other Federal taxes, but I think I have changed my mind.
    I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. I think we all have the ability to learn if we allow ourselves to hear opposing views.
     

    mrjarrell

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    Taxes are only going to go one way. Up. The government and it many branches are never going to give up their funding. The military industrial complex and its supporters will never allow it to be downsized to sane levels. The entitlement programs will always be given increases to placate the masses and those who benefit from from it. Even the so-called tax cuts have been nothing more than a scam. Give a cut and pay for it via deferral, not via spending cuts or downsizing. It's been that way since Reagan did it and will continue that way. Too many people have to many pet issues (including many INGO'ers) that they'll refuse to see cut for one reason or another. Without cuts and true downsizing there will never be a reason to get rid of a tax. Once upon a time, not too many years ago, the income tax could have been done away with. Now, they'll never allow that to happen.
     

    T-rav

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    Remember Taxes NEVER go away either, here in Ft Wayne they needed to expand the memorial coliseum. The city raised taxes at hotels and restaurants. So now the expansion is paid for and guess what? Yep you guessed it the tax is still in place.
     

    Prometheus

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    Don't get me wrong....I completely agree.
    They're not gonna get rid of taxes though.
    That is defeatist.
    I'd settle for the sales tax.....
    Compromise it whats gotten us all the oppressive firearms laws we have today. It never works well. They take and we give. Theft is theft.

    at least the folks I mentioned in my last post would be paying taxes as well.

    Lets oppress everyone! Chains all around!

    THAT IS EXACTLY what the 500 tyrants in washington want. Instead of being pissed at them, you are pissed off at your neighbors and relatives and some criminals.

    The REAL criminals are the ones in washington stealing from us everyday and every paycheck!

    Don't let the divide and conquer fascists at the top distract you from THEIR thievery!
     
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