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  • rambone

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    I heard about this story on the radio. A family from Peoria, AZ, dropped off some photographs on a memory stick to be printed at a local Walmart. Among these photographs was an innocent photograph of their 3 young daughters playing in a bathtub. All were under 5 years old and were naked.

    The Walmart employee turned them into Police/CPS and successfully ruined the next year of their lives. The parents were jailed on charges of child pornography, children were taken from their parents for a month, and the parents got placed on the Sex Offender Registry.

    The parents spent the following year hiring lawyers and working to clear their names. Finally they did, at the cost of $75,000. All charges were dropped but the damage had been done.

    Now they are suing Walmart for totally f***ing up their lives over innocent pictures that all parents take of their children. This is what the left does to try to attempt to break up nuclear families.


    Peoria Parents Sue Wal-Mart, AG's Office After Kids are Taken Away Over Nude Vacation Photos of Them

    If a naked baby is porn, what exactly is the stuff the rest of us watch?

    That's what a Peoria family is probably wondering after they had their children taken from them, and put into state custody after a Wal-Mart worker contacted authorities about some family photos it developed.

    Lisa and A.J. Demaree took their three children, ages 5, 4, and 1, on a vacation to San Diego. As vacations go, the young family took a lot of photos, including some of the children in the bathtub, in various stages of nudity.

    Hardly a pornographic photo shoot.

    When the family returned to Peoria, they took a memory stick containing about 150 photos of the trip to Wal-Mart to get them developed.

    That's when a Wal-Mart employee made a ghastly discovery; naked babies in a bathtub.

    What kind of horrid pedophile would take pictures of their own children naked in a bathtub when they are still essentially babies? Well, just about every family in America, that's who.

    The Wal-Mart employee alerted authorities to the fact that he was given the photos, and the Demarees' children were placed in foster care while the state investigated the case to see if there was any evidence of sexual assault.

    As you would probably imagine, nude children in the care of their parents doesn't qualify as sexual assault.

    The families attorney, Richard Treon, says the parents were cleared of all the charges after an investigation, which included examining all three of the children's genitals.

    The Demarees fought back, and have sued Wal-Mart in one complaint, and sued Arizona, the Arizona Attorney General, and the City of Peoria in a second complaint.

    The family is seeking punitive damages for defamation and outrage. Just another stupid event that cost state and local government time, and will probably wind up costing them (we taxpayers, that is) money.
     

    Lucas156

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    So how is one supposed to bathe the kids without seeing them naked? Changing diapers? This is one of the stupidest things Ive ever heard-WTH?
     

    JetGirl

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    I think it's odd to take pictures of your children naked, if there is full frontal nudity showing the privates.

    Spoken like somebody who who didn't grow up in the country runnin' nekkid through sprinklers and jumping into horse watering troughs.

    I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.
     

    JetGirl

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    I'm guessing the connotation of "naked baby pictures" elicits a different emotional response depending on how/where you were raised. For instance, a Slip n' Slide city kid might say "eww...that's kinda creepy!" whereas a sprinkler dodging country kid might say "aww...that's cute."
    :D
     

    originalhonkey

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    not into the nudes myself but my wife snaped a few of my girl when she was in the tub for the first time, the first time she took off her diaper and was running around the house. you know the stuff i can blackmail her with if she ever tries to date.:laugh: that stuff is just cute memories that we had. i think this story is just another example of how out of control things have got. it sad
     

    Calvin

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    This subject is no joke. My wife and I have discussed the issue in depth, and we delete the shots that have their wee little parts in them. I try and frame bathtub shots using the lip of the tub skillfully. Obviously, printing any tub photos or running around the house after bath time photos is right out. It's pathetic that we have to go to these lengths to not preserve what should be cherished memories, but that's the sh*tbox world we live in.
    The sad thing is that our kids have what is called "Mongolian Spots". It is a birthmark common in asians that looks like a bruise and is usually located on the lower back and/or buttocks. They eventually outgrow them, but this is obviously something you want documented by your physician. But, how do you accomplish that with out transporting an image of your child's naked bottom!? How ridiculous can politically correctness be. We solved the problem by having the doctor take the shot with his practice's camera. It pains me to have to live like frightened rabbits, but them's the breaks.
    Just be careful parents.

    -Calvin
     

    public servant

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    In todays' world...I'd have never taken those photos to have them printed. I'd have been afraid that they would have found their way to the internet with some freak doing what pedophiles do while viewing them. The world is full of people who would have done so.

    I wonder how many people would have been outraged though had it turned out the parents were doing the unspeakable and the photos had been printed by Wal-Mart and no one said anything?

    Then the story would have asked how could Wal-Mart be so uncaring that they made no attempt to save the children.

    Damned if you do...damned if you don't... :dunno:
     

    JetGirl

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    our kids have what is called "Mongolian Spots". It is a birthmark common in asians that looks like a bruise and is usually located on the lower back and/or buttocks. They eventually outgrow them,
    My kid had that. Worse yet, it looked like a bruise made by something with an edge.
    That'll raise an eyebrow. I'm just glad her pediatrician knew what it was and how to tell the difference!
    She grew into it and out of it under the care of the same doc. Thank goodness.
     

    tyrajam

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    Sounds pretty ridiculous. Can't blame the photo department people to much, they figured they better cover their butts. Can't blame the cops, they just followed up on a complaint. But whatever DA decided to prosecute and spent a year on this should be thrown in the slammer.
     

    Turtle

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    I might be wrong but I think I was born naked. And my son was breast fed.... That involves sticking a boobie in his mouth? So if women can do this in public isn't that publicly displaying child porn? Honestly to what degree are we allowed to raise our children. We are just a step away from licensed breeding and goverment nanny cams in our homes.
     

    nox

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    when my brother was 2-3 years old he used to sneak out of the house naked and run up and down the street. He would be arrested and labeled a pervert these days. Back then it was just plain funny to watch mom chase him down.
     

    techres

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    People have no sense of proportion. If we think we have to call over kids taking bath pics out of a "just to be sure" catch 22 atmosphere, then I guess we really cannot complain whenever someone calls the police if they see a gun being carried, or in a car, or in a neighbor's house because "you don't know" and are best off "just to be sure" given the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" aspect.

    Thank God a MWG call can be squared away pretty quickly, does not involve losing you kids, and will not follow you for the rest of your life. Otherwise the parallel would be closer. People need to use some sense and not hide behind the fear of "what if" all the while forgetting the "what if I destroy a family" all because I did not want to man up to a reasonable decision about likelihood of danger and abuse. Perhaps it is not even my job to imagine "what if" and is really to report only if I "actually see" pictures of "actual abuse".

    This country is heading towards the abyss of people who cannot, or will not, make their own decisions and would rather the state do it for them all because they don't want to take on the mantle of decisions.

    (Don't take the above as an insult on anyone here, it was not meant to be specific...)
     

    Libertarian01

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    To All,

    I remember seeing naked baby pictures from when I was a kid. It was not unheard of to see naked babies/young children. They were mostly bathtub, pool, sprinkler, etc. Full frontal nudity was not the norm but it wasn't unheard of either. It was just a way of recording a beautiful day with a little boy/girl having the time of their life splashing, running and smiling ear to ear.

    I do not completely fault the Walmart employee for reporting a "potential" problem. Like someone else said, if there were future ramifications of child abuse then a "damned if you do damned if you don't" scenario.

    I DO completely blame CPS for overreacting on a massive level. Investigate sure. Make certain no one is harmed. BUT listen to the parents and the context of the pictures, not an overly sensitive public hell bent on burning everyone at the stake.

    CPS seems to start with a "guilty until proved innocent" mentality. To me what is required is a shift in thinking, not in priorities.

    Regards,

    Doug
     

    Annie Oakley

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    As a photographer I have learned that those "cute" baby shots need to be controlled very tightly. I have on of my grandson, naked and holding his toes with a well placed leaf.....notning shows, you can't tell what sex he is but I printed the photo for the family myself and would never upload it to my site for sale. I think that it would sell because it is way too cute but it isn't worth the risk. It is sad that we have to go to such lenghts to protect ourselves and our children.

    I think Walmart didn't know that it was the child of the photographer and reacted as they are required to. The CPS and prosecutor went over the line.....
     
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