binary fire

[mpholic]

Yep, Its Legal & Available: Fire On Pull & Release Triggers - The Firearm Blog

https://www.full30.com/video/403c8934a479784b5098a598640f5654

 

[Mgderf]

Absolutely I want one, or two...

 

[jmpupillo]

I think it's a great idea. It is exactly like a response trigger on my paintball gun. However, the gritty trigger reset on semi, and the issue of firing too fast for the hammer on binary are deal breakers for me. I'll wait until they 'smooth out' those problems.

But by then the wonderful ATF may change their mind on the legality of this thing

 

[17 squirrel]

As interesting as it is, it looks like a huge lawsuit just waiting to happen. A trigger that also fires on its release, think of the possibilitys ?????
I hope everyone that buys one gets a huge rider on their insurance policy to cover the accidents and deaths that will surely happen with this product.

The videos with " here watch this " will be awesome to view.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

The ol ATF will change it's mind, and rule this as an auto.

Pretty cool but it does not work reliably and it will be illegal soon.

 

[SEIndSAM]

The ol ATF will change it's mind, and rule this as an auto.

Pretty cool but it does not work reliably and it will be illegal soon.

I'm afraid Roland is probably correct. Looks like fun, but would hate to invest the money to only have it ruled illegal in a year...

 

[padawan]

It seems interesting but more like a solution looking for a problem?

 

[mikefraz]

What makes me pause is that you can "outrun" the BCG and cause malfunctions. If I ever needed to lay down the type of fire that this provides, I'm pretty positive that is the exact time I DON'T wan a malfunction. Cool range toy at this point. And at $399, that's a pretty expensive range accessory.

 

[snowman]

I think it's cool, but not sure it's $399 cool.....

 

[blacknwhite]

cool and some tuning with the platform may help it run a little better but I'm not really in the game of dumping ammo one the ground.

 

[ScouT6a]

Too many problems for the $399 price tag. Get yourself a $99 Bumpfire Systems stock if you anticipate a need for this fire rate or just want to have a ball on the range. It will never outrun the BCG.

 

[jbombelli]

So when you fire one round you have no choice but to fire another round? Not sure I like that a whole lot.

 

[ScouT6a]

Jbombelli, that's my take in the "binary" position. You would have to be on "semi" for only one round.

 

[GLOCKBOY]

I wonder how it would work for multi gun matches where two quick hits on a target are needed? Or if it's even allowed.

 

[rosejm]

So when you fire one round you have no choice but to fire another round? Not sure I like that a whole lot.

As I understand (maybe only the Franklin version), you can switch back to semi-auto with the trigger depressed and not fire a second round. Slightly dangerous, but you picked 'binary' before you fired the first one so...

 

[Beowulf]

I'm not sure how this is really any more dangerous than any other firearm. How many times do you fire a round, keep the trigger fully depressed, and then wave your gun around? The two shots come in very rapid succession once you let go of the trigger, so frankly, if someone manages to cause an accident with this setup, I'm betting they would be pretty likely to do so with a normal semi-auto.

As to not wanting to fire the second shot, you can put the gun back on safe with the trigger depressed and it won't fire. They also make a trigger that only fires on the release, not the pull, with the idea that releasing a trigger won't jar the gun as much as pulling a trigger.

What I'm wondering is what the trigger pull will feel like, with this extra mechanical action incorporated.

 

[Dirtebiker]

As interesting as it is, it looks like a huge lawsuit just waiting to happen. A trigger that also fires on its release, think of the possibilitys ?????
I hope everyone that buys one gets a huge rider on their insurance policy to cover the accidents and deaths that will surely happen with this product.

The videos with " here watch this " will be awesome to view.

In other words, it will be "awesome" to see someone get killed???
I hope you don't really mean that!

 

[JollyMon]

Turns out Fostech also is introduction a "binary" system. Theirs is called the Echo. Theirs looks more like a drop in trigger replacement compared to the one above, which to my understanding was a dedicated lower (but I might be wrong on that one).

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/fostechs-echo-trigger-fires-rapid-fire-double-taps/