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  • AndersonIN

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    Bubba that is the same thing that I went through the last 3 times I went in. But I've found out that the individual that I ran into has his own policy and protocol that wasn't exactly the policy of the Casino.
     

    bigworm

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    i was nervous the first time at blue chip but they dont fuss about it at all. What they do want you to do that nobody else mentioned is to not unholster your gun and check it with the holster.
     

    sig-guy

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    i was nervous the first time at blue chip but they dont fuss about it at all. What they do want you to do that nobody else mentioned is to not unholster your gun and check it with the holster.

    Take an extra nylon holster to meet their requirements. They want it holstered, they don't say which holster. :):
     

    roscott

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    I informed security at Hoosier Park that I wanted to check a firearm, and they looked at me like I had just donned my ski mask. They informed me that they had no idea what I meant by "checking" my firearm, but that I would not be allowed in unless I "secured" it in my vehicle.

    I then went in to the wedding reception and learned that all of my friends and relatives had been smart enough not to say anything, and I was suddenly the only unarmed person in our party. Thank God nothing happened! I would have been terribly embarassed! :dunno:
     

    elwoodward

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    Weird, when I went to French Lick a few months ago, I told the security guy I needed to lock up a firearm and they took me into the room where he had me put it in a locker and wished me luck. I think he asked for my ID and wrote my name down in the log. When I was leaving I told the security that I needed to retrieve my checked firearm and went into the room where the guy (different guy than checked it in) asked to see my id and checked it against the log and unlocked the locker for me to retrieve my firearm.

    Everybody was very cool about it and the security when I checked out shared that he does not leave the house unarmed either.

    When they asked for my ID, I assumed it was to verify who I was so they logged the gun in under the right name and returned the right gun to the right guy on the other end.

    There you go that is the procedure at French lick casino. Although the lead officer or above shall verify the person has a ltch or permit depending on state and a state ID or drivers license or government issue ID to log the name in our log. For verification of the person the gun will be returned to. Source me. Lead security officer at FLR.

    Note I was also present at the time the person in this thread refused to provide an id. Sir I to understand that There is no legal right for us to ask for your id. I also know that the person you spoke to handled the situation poorly. But if we cannot verify your I'd with our log book. When you return to obtain your weapon how do we know you didn't drop the key and someone was attempting to take your weapon? It will not always be the same person returning your weapon that secured it. Or if you lost your key we can still return the weapon after verifying your ID.

    Any questions can be pm'd to me and i will answer them to the best of my knowledge.

    I also carry everywhere but at work. Carry on.
     

    AndersonIN

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    There you go that is the procedure at French lick casino. Although the lead officer or above shall verify the person has a ltch or permit depending on state and a state ID or drivers license or government issue ID to log the name in our log. For verification of the person the gun will be returned to. Source me. Lead security officer at FLR.

    Note I was also present at the time the person in this thread refused to provide an id. Sir I to understand that There is no legal right for us to ask for your id. I also know that the person you spoke to handled the situation poorly. But if we cannot verify your I'd with our log book. When you return to obtain your weapon how do we know you didn't drop the key and someone was attempting to take your weapon? It will not always be the same person returning your weapon that secured it. Or if you lost your key we can still return the weapon after verifying your ID.

    Any questions can be pm'd to me and i will answer them to the best of my knowledge.

    I also carry everywhere but at work. Carry on.


    As for the "policy" I called in to check with security (about a month ago) shortly after my incident and the person I spoke to stated that they didn't have a set policy.
     

    elwoodward

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    I'll get back to you on that but my during my training I was told that was the SOP. If not I'll write one and submit for approval. Hope to see some of you around.
     

    bmiley1963

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    Illegal to carry in casinos in Indiana. But was just out at the Indiana Grand Casino in shelllbyville for the first time a couple of weeks ago and was surprised there were no checks or metal detectors. I didn't carry because I know the law. Was just surprised.
     

    elwoodward

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    68 IAC 1-7-1 Weapons in the casino
    Authority: IC 4-33-4; IC 4-35-4
    Affected: IC 4-33-8; IC 4-35-6.5; IC 35-41-1-17
    Sec. 1. (a) The following definitions apply throughout this rule:
    (1) "Federal enforcement officer" hasthe meaning set forth in IC 35-41-1-17, or means a law enforcement officer as defined
    in 5 U.S.C. 8331(2), or both.
    (2) "Law enforcement officer" has the meaning set forth in IC 35-41-1-17.
    (3) "Security personnel" means an employee of the casino licensee or a supplier licensee who:
    (A) holds the appropriate level of occupational license under IC 4-33-8 or IC 4-35-6.5, and 68 IAC 2-3; and
    (B) is employed in the casino licensee's security department or by a supplier licensee that contractually provides
    security services to a casino licensee.
    (b) An enforcement agent may carry a weapon in the casino. A law enforcement officer or a federal enforcement officer:
    (1) whose sole purpose for being in the casino is the performance of official duties; and
    (2) who has advised the enforcement agent or the commission that the officer will be in the casino;
    shall be allowed to carry a weapon in the casino.
    (c) The casino licensee shall post a sign in a prominent place at the point of passenger ingress stating, "No weapons are
    allowed beyond this point. Failure to comply with thisrule may result in immediate removal from the casino, immediate detention
    by security personnel, the imposition of civil penalties, or exclusion under applicable law.".
    (d) The casino licensee shall provide a secure place to which patrons do not have access to store weapons checked by:
    (1) patrons;
    (2) off duty law enforcement officers; or
    (3) off duty federal enforcement officers.
    (e) Security personnel may carry a weapon in the casino during times that patrons are not present. (Indiana Gaming
    Commission; 68 IAC 1-7-1; filed Jun 23, 1995, 2:30 p.m.: 18 IR 2649; readopted filed Oct 15, 2001, 4:34 p.m.: 25 IR 898; filed
    Dec 18, 2006, 1:16 p.m.: 20070117-IR-068060190FRA; readopted filed Sep 14, 2007, 1:40 p.m.: 20071003-IR-068070354RFA;
    filed Dec 6, 2012, 2:32 p.m.: 20130102-IR-068110786FRA; readopted filed Nov 26, 2013, 3:58 p.m.: 20131225-IR-
    068130354RFA)
     

    rhino

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    So . . . now that the casinos don't have to offer secure storage (and most won't if they don't have to), doesn't that make the parking lots more attractive to thieves and muggers? You're going to have money going into the casino, but not your gun. Some people will have money and sometimes a lot of money on their way to their car.

    Not a good situation.
     

    elwoodward

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    So . . . now that the casinos don't have to offer secure storage (and most won't if they don't have to), doesn't that make the parking lots more attractive to thieves and muggers? You're going to have money going into the casino, but not your gun. Some people will have money and sometimes a lot of money on their way to their car.

    Not a good situation.

    Every casino except for the one with the waiver has to provide you a secure storage area. Waivers are per gaming licessee not state wide. Now if you complained to the gaming commision about not haveing storage on property for that one casino (assuming that is only one with waiver) im sure they would revoke it say you took a cab to the casino and don't have a vehicle to lock up your weapon in. IGC could revoke the waiver. If given a reason they see fit.
     

    Clay Pigeon

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    Every casino except for the one with the waiver has to provide you a secure storage area. Waivers are per gaming licessee not state wide. Now if you complained to the gaming commision about not haveing storage on property for that one casino (assuming that is only one with waiver) im sure they would revoke it say you took a cab to the casino and don't have a vehicle to lock up your weapon in. IGC could revoke the waiver. If given a reason they see fit.

    There is no secure storage at Anderson, never has been. That's with 20+ years of going there and having an acquaintance that's been head of security there for better than 15 years.
     

    openwell

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    Carrying during State Fair put you in jeopardy of arrest? if you have LTCH or losing your LTCH because of such arrest?
     

    elwoodward

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    Ok so all casinos in Indiana except for four winds (native American) casino and French lick resort casino privately owned by cook group. Fall under the waiver. But like I said send a few letters and igc could revoke the waiver.
     
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