Rather than start a new thread, any reloading data sources for 9mm 124 gr. Hornday XTP with Hodgdon Clays (not Universal)? The published company data is for lead bullets and lower velocities, so I'm *assuming* that a load for a jacketed bullet will be somewhat higher.
I have seen posts in other forums giving loads over 4.0 gr, but with Clays that sounds a bit dicey.
Cartridge : 9 mm Luger (SAAMI)Bullet : .355, 124, Hornady HP/XTP 35571
Useable Case Capaci: 8.169 grain H2O = 0.530 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.125 inch = 28.58 mm
Barrel Length : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Clays
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 71 2.56 860 204 23327 2274 100.0 0.538
-18.0 73 2.62 873 210 24350 2323 100.0 0.527
-16.0 75 2.69 885 216 25395 2373 100.0 0.518
-14.0 76 2.75 898 222 26462 2422 100.0 0.508
-12.0 78 2.82 910 228 27552 2471 100.0 0.499
-10.0 80 2.88 922 234 28665 2521 100.0 0.490
-08.0 82 2.94 934 240 29800 2569 100.0 0.482 ! Near Maximum !
-06.0 84 3.01 946 246 30959 2618 100.0 0.474 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 85 3.07 957 252 32141 2667 100.0 0.466 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 87 3.14 969 258 33347 2716 100.0 0.459 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 89 3.20 980 265 34576 2764 100.0 0.452 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 91 3.26 992 271 35829 2812 100.0 0.445 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 92 3.33 1003 277 37107 2860 100.0 0.438 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 94 3.39 1014 283 38410 2908 100.0 0.432 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 96 3.46 1025 289 39737 2956 100.0 0.425 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 98 3.52 1036 296 41090 3004 100.0 0.419 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Tagged. I have 7 pounds of Clays in an open jug that I would love to use up. Even at max published loads I can not seem to make power factor. Only load I have found so far that will work for me is 3.9-4.0 under a 230 grain LRN in 45 acp.
RVB it seems everyone I talk to pushes the clays a tenth over so over published max to make power. That scares me because the powder does not drop that consistently for me. I don't mind going to the max and then sneaking over, but in my case if I try to drop 4.1 grains some cases might get 4.2-4.3 grains.
unusual for a Dillon w/ clays.
static problems perhaps?
how much are you belling?
-rvb
Tagged. I have 7 pounds of Clays in an open jug that I would love to use up. Even at max published loads I can not seem to make power factor. Only load I have found so far that will work for me is 3.9-4.0 under a 230 grain LRN in 45 acp. I have been tempted to try some Clays in 9mm but the narrow window for charge weight makes me nervous. The powder does not meter as consistently as others in my Dillon and it seems that max charges are necessary to make power or at the very least run stock guns.
I am am interested in cast bullet 9mm data that works. Maybe a nice 135 grain coated bullet would be the ticket.
TrophyHunter thank you very much for QuickLoad data!!!! You ran some for me in the past and it seems to be spot on with the chronograph. You are doing INGO a great service.
I will admit I am somewhat aggressive with my belling. I was shaving lead during seating so opened it a bit more.
Yea, 4 grains could get dicey with a bullet setback I'd load no longer than 1.125 to use less powder to make the pressure ceiling here's Quickload numbers on that round for you.
I don't know where the crazy 4.0+ loads were coming from, for 9mm at least.
Just to be clear, some of us were talking about .45ACP. I have no experience w. Clays in 9.
-rvb
Worked up two loads that I thought would be 'safe', 2.8 and 2.9 grains with the XTP 124 gr., OAL set at 1.15".
Velocities consistently in the mid-800 fps range. Almost like shooting .45 again! I'm going to stick with the 2.9 and set the bullets a little deeper for OAL 1.09". Pray for me!
1.15" is long for an XTP. I think 1.06"-1.09" was the hornady recommendation.
850 fps would only be a 105 power factor load.
It is smooth shooting, though!