Coronovirus III

[churchmouse]

That's my cue to post a video from the THE best Chicago cover band in the world. In this case, Russia:

[video=youtube;FB-nXQc6LMU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB-nXQc6LMU[/video]

Chicago being one of my favorite bands and having seen them multiple times I am really impressed here.

 

[actaeon277]

Wow. If it was just the brass, and nobody was singing, I wouldn't have known it wasn't Chicago.

 

[DadSmith]

Vitamin D levels may impact COVID-19 mortality rates, study claims.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/vitamin-d-levels-covid-19-mortality-rates

 

[bwframe]

A governor like we should have...

‘A resume for future office’: Virus tests a GOP governor

 

[BugI02]

Vitamin D levels may impact COVID-19 mortality rates, study claims.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/vitamin-d-levels-covid-19-mortality-rates

IMO, I'd take this with a grain of salt. We know that the people who died from WuVid 19 were overwhelmingly very old. These people are not very active and don't get outside much and as such Vitamin D deficiencies are common in the elderly

It could be correlation without causation if they did not control for pre-existing deficiency

 

[doddg]

Some observations by Frank Viola in his 64-page Virus Crisis Survival Guide:
The word “quarantine” comes from the Italian term "quaranta," a word invented during the fourteenth century black plague.

1) Reframe “normal.”
If you look at world history, it’s actually normal for plagues, pestilences, economic fallouts -- not to mention other disasters -- to sweep through various parts of the earth from time to time.

2) No one knows what’s really going on, despite what they say.

3) We don’t know what the long-term repercussions of the virus are.

4) We don’t know how many people have really died from it.

5) We don’t know what’s going to happen with the economy over the next 12 months.

6) We don’t know if those who have had the infection and recovered can get it again.

7) We don’t know if/when a full-proof treatment will knock it out.

8) We don’t know if there will be a resurgence of infections in the Fall or Winter.

I could go on for pages, but this makes the point.
As one who can see a conspiracy behind every rock, I have grown weary!

Where are the "Truthtellers?"
Who do we believe?
One of the political parties? Really? I think everyone knows better.
Somewhere out there are medical people who are telling the Truth, but there voice is being drowned out by those with agendas.
Will we really know the Truth about all this in 2 yrs., or just one version of it?

 

[nonobaddog]

IMO, I'd take this with a grain of salt. We know that the people who died from WuVid 19 were overwhelmingly very old. These people are not very active and don't get outside much and as such Vitamin D deficiencies are common in the elderly

It could be correlation without causation if they did not control for pre-existing deficiency

I would guess those with vitamin D deficiency were pre-existing, even chronic. The matched control group they needed to include (and hopefully did) are those without vitamin D deficiency.

 

[nj4020]

That's my cue to post a video from the THE best Chicago cover band in the world. In this case, Russia:

[video=youtube;FB-nXQc6LMU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB-nXQc6LMU[/video]

They are scheduled to be in Fort Wayne on July 10th.

 

[Gabriel]

Some observations by Frank Viola in his 64-page Virus Crisis Survival Guide:
The word “quarantine” comes from the Italian term "quaranta," a word invented during the fourteenth century black plague.

1) Reframe “normal.”
If you look at world history, it’s actually normal for plagues, pestilences, economic fallouts -- not to mention other disasters -- to sweep through various parts of the earth from time to time.

2) No one knows what’s really going on, despite what they say.

3) We don’t know what the long-term repercussions of the virus are.

4) We don’t know how many people have really died from it.

5) We don’t know what’s going to happen with the economy over the next 12 months.

6) We don’t know if those who have had the infection and recovered can get it again.

7) We don’t know if/when a full-proof treatment will knock it out.

8) We don’t know if there will be a resurgence of infections in the Fall or Winter.

I could go on for pages, but this makes the point.
As one who can see a conspiracy behind every rock, I have grown weary!

Where are the "Truthtellers?"
Who do we believe?
One of the political parties? Really? I think everyone knows better.
Somewhere out there are medical people who are telling the Truth, but there voice is being drowned out by those with agendas.
Will we really know the Truth about all this in 2 yrs., or just one version of it?

This is pretty much why I just don't really pay much attention to the whole thing or really care one way or another.

 

[actaeon277]

[video=youtube;DPE-_3Bj8M0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPE-_3Bj8M0[/video]

 

[ditcherman]

Some observations by Frank Viola in his 64-page Virus Crisis Survival Guide:
The word “quarantine” comes from the Italian term "quaranta," a word invented during the fourteenth century black plague.

1) Reframe “normal.”
If you look at world history, it’s actually normal for plagues, pestilences, economic fallouts -- not to mention other disasters -- to sweep through various parts of the earth from time to time.

2) No one knows what’s really going on, despite what they say.

3) We don’t know what the long-term repercussions of the virus are.

4) We don’t know how many people have really died from it.

5) We don’t know what’s going to happen with the economy over the next 12 months.

6) We don’t know if those who have had the infection and recovered can get it again.

7) We don’t know if/when a full-proof treatment will knock it out.

8) We don’t know if there will be a resurgence of infections in the Fall or Winter.

I could go on for pages, but this makes the point.
As one who can see a conspiracy behind every rock, I have grown weary!

Where are the "Truthtellers?"
Who do we believe?
One of the political parties? Really? I think everyone knows better.
Somewhere out there are medical people who are telling the Truth, but there voice is being drowned out by those with agendas.
Will we really know the Truth about all this in 2 yrs., or just one version of it?

Patience.
We are not a patient people, generally.

This is why I don’t get too riled up about the politics, or one opinions that seem to come with motivations.

We are so used to getting info now that we can’t hardly stand it when we have to wait for it. The way I see it, those that demand answers prematurely are more likely to reach wrong conclusions.

Patience.
The truth will come out.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Greenwood mall open, apparently

 

[Twangbanger]

A governor like we should have...

‘A resume for future office’: Virus tests a GOP governor

She _is_ nicer to look at than Whitmer. The Michigan one has a "creepy forehead."

 

[nonobaddog]

Patience.
The truth will come out.

I used to believe that too.

 

[ditcherman]

I used to believe that too.

It’s just taking longer than you’d like...

 

[qwerty]

I saw this regarding nursing home deaths. The numbers and percentages are crazy.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ETm51GayRjlnoaRVtUOWfkolEeAQZ-zPhXkCbVe4_ik/htmlview

 

[foszoe]

I am ok with patience....i just want to know before I die....

Roswell, Kennedy .....Coronavirus....the list just grows

It’s just taking longer than you’d like...

 

[chipbennett]

IMO, I'd take this with a grain of salt. We know that the people who died from WuVid 19 were overwhelmingly very old. These people are not very active and don't get outside much and as such Vitamin D deficiencies are common in the elderly

It could be correlation without causation if they did not control for pre-existing deficiency

It absolutely is, based on data presented. That is my primary problem with articles - and, especially, headlines - based on such epidemiological evaluations. The article literally says "correlated", but the headline speciously changes that to "may impact".

 

[dusty88]

I would guess those with vitamin D deficiency were pre-existing, even chronic. The matched control group they needed to include (and hopefully did) are those without vitamin D deficiency.

I haven't read this particular paper yet but vitamin D deficiency is shown to be a contributor to other respiratory diseases that people typically get in the winter like cold and flu. And if Vitamin D deficiency is a large contributor to morbidity and mortality for covid-19, it may be part of the reason why so many dark-skinned people in Northern climates are getting more severe illness

Often these things are overstated or totally made-up, in the case of an easy solution with a supplement. I certainly don't think vitamin D is going to solve the covid-19 problem but a low dose is completely harmless. We started taking a thousand units each back in February that's a pretty small dose but without an actual known deficiency it makes sense to me

 

[dusty88]

Patience.
We are not a patient people, generally.

This is why I don’t get too riled up about the politics, or one opinions that seem to come with motivations.

We are so used to getting info now that we can’t hardly stand it when we have to wait for it. The way I see it, those that demand answers prematurely are more likely to reach wrong conclusions.

Patience.
The truth will come out.

i recommend following Laurie Garrett on Twitter. She's a bioscience journalist and wrote a book in the late 90s that describe the way something like this was going to happen. I don't mean she just predicted a disaster. I mean she understands why we were so vulnerable. Although the US was expected to be better prepared than it is

This week on CNN, she described the difficulties of getting a widespread vaccine. She didn't really say anything shocking in itself but when you put it all together you see how difficult it is to get a vaccine developed and especially distributed

Almost no one here will like her politics, just as a warning. She's pretty mad at Trump about the handling of the pandemic and from a couple of comments she tweeted I think she's also anti-gun. But i learn a lot from her about the issues of the pandemic. She seemed to have supported George Bush by the way so she's not a complete partisan

Check out Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett): https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett?s=09