So I have a little confusion about Dillon presses. I currently use a friend's 650 to load 9mm. Im looking to get my own press and am trying to clarify the main difference between a Dillon 650 and a 1050. Can anybody help me out? Im wondering what the big advantage is to a 1050. Does Dillon make a press that will load rifle and pistol with a simple change in dies? I currently only own a Redding T7 to load my 308 and would like a progressive to load my high volume loads like .556 for 3 gun. Anybody got any advice?
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Dillon Press Question.
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partyboy6686
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Warranty is a big difference between the 650 and 1050. The 650 has a lifetime warranty and the 1050 has a 1 year warranty. 1050 caliber conversion kits are pretty pricey too.
Dillon 1050: Eight Station, auto swaging, comes with case feeder, all steel, no strong mount, commercial grade machine.
Dillon 650: Five station, no swager, case feeder extra, strong mount available.
Dillon warranties the 1050 for 12 months, but we've had many, MANY parts shipped to us long after the warranty was up. Dillon is good like that.
Dillon 650: Five station, no swager, case feeder extra, strong mount available.
Dillon warranties the 1050 for 12 months, but we've had many, MANY parts shipped to us long after the warranty was up. Dillon is good like that.
1050 is considered a "commercial machine" and as stated, does not carry the lifetime warranty. All operation of the 1050 is done on the down stroke as opposed to priming on the up stroke on the 650 (and most other progressive presses). I believe the 1050 comes with a case feeder whereas the 650 does not.
I load on a 650 with all he bells and whistles and love it. I believe the 650 is also a bit easier to change calibers as well, especially if you have conversion kits including separate powder drops for each caliber. You pull 2 pins and swap toolheads already ready to go. Depending on the caliber, you may also need to swap the shell plate and priming system.
I load on a 650 with all he bells and whistles and love it. I believe the 650 is also a bit easier to change calibers as well, especially if you have conversion kits including separate powder drops for each caliber. You pull 2 pins and swap toolheads already ready to go. Depending on the caliber, you may also need to swap the shell plate and priming system.
Having two 650s, I recently picked up a 1050. I want to sell all my 650 stuff and only load on the 1050...
It's not that the 650 is bad. The 650 is a great machine, but the 1050 is better. Ammo consistency is improved. OAL length on the 650 varied a couple thousands, probably ±.003. 1050 is ±.001 or less. Primer seating depth on the 650 is controlled by force on the upstroke. 1050 primer seating on the downstroke is the best part about it. Mechanically controlled, super consistent and easier on the arm.
The only operational point of the 1050 I don't like is the powder being on the back of the press. Running a bullet feeder and separate bullet seat and crimp dies, you can still look down into the case and see the powder using a 650. On the 1050, it's in the back and out of view.
It's not that the 650 is bad. The 650 is a great machine, but the 1050 is better. Ammo consistency is improved. OAL length on the 650 varied a couple thousands, probably ±.003. 1050 is ±.001 or less. Primer seating depth on the 650 is controlled by force on the upstroke. 1050 primer seating on the downstroke is the best part about it. Mechanically controlled, super consistent and easier on the arm.
The only operational point of the 1050 I don't like is the powder being on the back of the press. Running a bullet feeder and separate bullet seat and crimp dies, you can still look down into the case and see the powder using a 650. On the 1050, it's in the back and out of view.
Cowboy1629
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Caliber change is faster and cheaper on the 650 vs the 1050. The 1050 is great for really large quantities of a single caliber. It is also great for swagging primer pockets. Myself I have a 550 and 650 with case and bullet feeders. I may buy a 1050 one of these days but right now I just can't justify the added expense.
