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Do you think there will be an "Assault Rifles" ban or not
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Don't know about a ban. There seems to be more pro gun support in politics these days which would seem to make the prospect of a ban unlikely. But just for good measure, I'm buying an M1a before the election and maybe some 20 and 30 round mags too.
When Obama went into office 3&1/2 years ago, people were saying that there would be gun bans. I remember going to the Indy 1500 right after he went into office. Many were in a buying frenzy. It's amazing what speculation can do.
It's all irrelevant because the world is ending in December of 2012. At least that's what one of my "friends" told me.
It's all irrelevant because the world is ending in December of 2012. At least that's what one of my "friends" told me.
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The fun part is that if you act and it happens, you're a genius, if it doesn't happen, you're a fool. Conversely, if you do nothing and nothing happens, you're a genius, and if it does, you're a fool.
My position is to see to my anticipated needs as best I can and not worry about the inevitable, specifically that we will have to deal with politicians who would like to see the republic and its associated liberty killed dead. Worrying about it does nothing but raise my blood pressure. Some things simply cannot be addressed until they happen, the same way that you cannot eliminate the threat of fire by having the FD come hose down your house today and make it safe forever.
I'm sure it will be spoken about publicly to appease the scared Rosie O'donnell types, but the facts just aren't in their court. They'll do just enough to say "hey, we tried" to get their constituents to feel like they're actually trying to "make the world a better place", but I don't even think Obama takes it seriously. The main focus for the election is jobs, and plenty of American jobs depend on the "assault rifle" and firearm industry. I just don't see them being stupid enough to try and take it on in any serious capacity.
Not saying anything that hasn't already been said a thousand times, but it just doesn't make any sense. Banning a gun for aesthetic reasons does what, exactly? I honestly get the image of people that just sit around watching CNN all day screaming at the tube, "I DON'T LIKE IT. MAKE IT ILLEGAL. I DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER. MAKE IT ILLEGAL. I'M SCARED. BAN IT."
Not saying anything that hasn't already been said a thousand times, but it just doesn't make any sense. Banning a gun for aesthetic reasons does what, exactly? I honestly get the image of people that just sit around watching CNN all day screaming at the tube, "I DON'T LIKE IT. MAKE IT ILLEGAL. I DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER. MAKE IT ILLEGAL. I'M SCARED. BAN IT."
I'm more worried about a re-elected BHO appointing more liberal SCOTUS judges, creating a liberal majority, therefore redefining the 2nd amendment as they deem fit.
I agree this is most likely the way something could happen, by taking it out of the hands of Congress. Get a majority and let them do the dirty work. As far as Obammma goes, does anyone remember the use of " czars " before in America politics before he came along, I sure don't. Stay tuned.
04DarkShadowGT
Master
The far left is no more insane than the far right. Most people in this country are more towards the middle, that is who each candidate needs to get, they already have their people in the bag.
I will not be voting for Obama, but he is going to win and it will be more than the far left that votes for him.
IncendiaryGunner
Master
YES, WITHOUT A DOUBT!
Now, I will sell you some of mine - but with the upcoming gun grabbin', the going rate is three fold what it was yesterday.
By the way, make sure to get your lifetime LTCH ASAP... I hear it will be discontinued if Obama is elected.
Now, I will sell you some of mine - but with the upcoming gun grabbin', the going rate is three fold what it was yesterday.
By the way, make sure to get your lifetime LTCH ASAP... I hear it will be discontinued if Obama is elected.
standeford
Marksman
This is word for word the same speculation that was happening in 2008. There are plenty of posts here and elsewhere, some from the same people current spreading gloom, that predicted everything from ammo serial numbering to outright bans and confiscations.
Obama walked into office with a majority in both houses and the biggest wave of popular support since Bush on September 12th. Not only were firearms rights not further restricted, they were expanded. The Brady campaign gave Obama an F. “In just one year, Barack Obama has signed into law more repeals of federal gun policies than in President George W. Bush’s eight years in office" is a direct quote from them.
Obama walked into office with a majority in both houses and the biggest wave of popular support since Bush on September 12th. Not only were firearms rights not further restricted, they were expanded. The Brady campaign gave Obama an F. “In just one year, Barack Obama has signed into law more repeals of federal gun policies than in President George W. Bush’s eight years in office" is a direct quote from them.
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Under Obama we have seen restrictions against carrying in national forests and on Amtrak removed. While moves in the right direction and better than Bush, I have a hard time counting these as major victories. I found it telling that while Brady would make the above statement, the substance was not spelled out, and their 'F' is better than a higher mark, but then again, it seems that based on their ideas of right and proper, kicking in doors and confiscating everything that shoots would merely earn a 'B'.
In the end, I cannot say whether Obama has a more charitable attitude toward gun ownership than his public remarks indicate (think 'bitter clingers' speech), he has been too busy screwing other things up to take that on yet, or for whatever reason the men behind the curtain aren't ready to address it yet, but since at least 1988 we have had a parade of essentially equally bad candidates whose differences are pretty well limited to the window dressing as their substance is remarkably uniform for ostensible mutual opposition, and we have been going the same basic direction regardless of the persons or party affiliation of the persons in office. While your effort at fairness is a noble sentiment, I do not have a friend in the White House and will not until tangible support for following the Constitution precisely is manifested--something which Obama has been most flagrant a failing to do.
standeford
Marksman
Compared to some perfect 2nd Amendment candidate, of course Obama isn't great. But I can say that the reality of the legislation he has signed contrasts sharply with the speculation over what his public remarks have meant. And I'll take reality every time.
It isn't like the guy has not had opportunities. A Congresswoman from his party was shot in the head. He had the Wong shootings before that. And two mass shootings in an election year. If there were some political capital to be collected by proposing new restrictions he'd be all over it, right now. Of course that says more about public sentiment than Obama, but it isn't like that would be different we're Romney in the White House.
It isn't like the guy has not had opportunities. A Congresswoman from his party was shot in the head. He had the Wong shootings before that. And two mass shootings in an election year. If there were some political capital to be collected by proposing new restrictions he'd be all over it, right now. Of course that says more about public sentiment than Obama, but it isn't like that would be different we're Romney in the White House.
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I agree completely with that! When they both get the politics worked out of their systems, they are so much alike they really should start a new business and call it 'Willard & Barry's'.
I will also agree regarding the words vs. works argument, but then again, I am also concerned that the words are just waiting until the electoral impunity that comes with a second term happens before manifesting. It is different than holding to Romney's record of being the last person we would want based on record and a great choice based on what he is saying this week.
avboiler11
Master
Nope...not as long as Republicans control at least one chamber of Congress.
Jerry45Acp
Shooter
A gun ban, [any gun ban], will not matter if the Dept. of Homeland Security buys up all of the ammunition.
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Also, once again, it will be irrelevant if the BATFE is going to have the authority to kick in doors and permanently confiscate weapons without any due process before, during, or after the event like a DEA-style asset forfeiture.
