Fast & Furious Doc Dump Reveals Ulterior Motive of Gun Control

[Kirk Freeman]

No surprise to INGO, but documents dumped just before Christmas show substantial evidence of BATF's motivation in arming Mexican drug gangs was to push "gun control" in the USA.

Blog: Sharyl Attkisson: Docs indicate ATF was using Fast and Furious to justify new gun regs

 

[OakRiver]

Given that Holder complained that one of his biggest regrets before stepping down was an inability to force through gun control legislation. If only higher public offices involved a promise, or oath if you will, to uphold the Constitution

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Given that Holder complained that one of his biggest regrets before stepping down was an inability to force through gun control legislation

Hold your head up high, boys. That is because of you!

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

Who would have guessed?

 

[87iroc]

Who would have guessed?

Agree 100%

 

[printcraft]

Given that Holder complained that one of his biggest regrets before stepping down was an inability to force through gun control legislation. If only higher public offices involved a promise, or oath if you will, to uphold the Constitution

If they will stir up the mexicans to try to pass gun control here in the United States .........
is it really a stretch to think that they would also stir up animosity against the police to the same end?

"Too many cops are getting killed and shot at.................... we need gun control."

Before you dismiss that idea, remember, they just DID try that with fast and furious.
Never underestimate the depravity of a leftist loon.

 

[Marcinko]

I wouldn't say they stirred up the mexicans, rather they made a trade up front, mexico you let us put our guns in your country and we will let your people stay and take a million more.

 

[Henry]

Well, be sure to vote. That will make the state more honest and trustworthy.

 

[printcraft]

Well, I guess I'll just give up then and wave my arms in the air because I just don't care......... Trying to reverse the slide is just a stupid notion.

Who's ready for Hitlary?

[video=youtube;30d8-OeiWVk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30d8-OeiWVk#t=19[/video]

 

[Huzrjim]

Sharyl Attkisson is a true journalist - find the truth without political blinders.

 

[Ericpwp]

Maybe they wanted to start a civil war so more dreamers could seek asylum.

 

[mrjarrell]

The documents and Attkinson's article, are just reaffirming what David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh broke a couple of years ago when they brought the matter to our attention. Nice to see it still getting some press, though.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

The documents and Attkinson's article, are just reaffirming what David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh broke a couple of years ago when they brought the matter to our attention. Nice to see it still getting some press, though.

Very true, Codrea and Vanderboegh desire all the credit for first breaking this scandal.

I must confess I find it maddening that the media would allow the Obama Administration to pave the road to "gun control" with the bodies of dead Mexicans.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

The documents and Attkinson's article, are just reaffirming what David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh broke a couple of years ago when they brought the matter to our attention. Nice to see it still getting some press, though.

Agree with you that this is just reaffirming what Codrea et al said earlier.

Would a Republican AG have engaged in this, like Holder did?

This is what infuriates me with the "R's and D's are the same" crowd. I get that R's infringe in other areas. I'm not a big fan. But I have NOT seen near the level of BS that Holder and Co. have done from any R AG.

 

[txgho1911]

The leftist across the country are not surprised or shocked. Part of any means necessary.

I've half a mind that those thousands of illegals should get rounded up and interned for a period of time while they are educated on freedom and liberty. Deport them in groups of 5k with arms and uniforms of their expat state.
Let them return home to fix their own country.

 

[femurphy77]

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you to find out there is deceit and lies emanating from our nations capital!!!!!





Yeah purple, blah, blah, blah, blah.

 

[spencer rifle]

I've half a mind that those thousands of illegals should get rounded up and interned for a period of time while they are educated on freedom and liberty. Deport them in groups of 5k with arms and uniforms of their expat state.
Let them return home to fix their own country.

“Or if we must meddle, as we have always done, let us meddle for a change in a constructive way. Stop every campesino at our southern border, give him a handgun, a good rifle, and a case of ammunition, and send him home. He will know what to do with our gifts and good wishes. The people know who their enemies are.” – Edward Abbey, 1988

 

[cop car]

I really think the ATF had good intentions. They were trying to track how guns got from dealers and into criminals hands. I don't really think they had a focus on getting them into Mexico, they just happened to end up there. The Mexican criminals don't need to get guns from the US, they just buy full auto weapons from South America and mainly from the Mexican police and military.

The problem was beyond poor execution and lack of planning. Don't just document the serial numbers and give them to criminals and wait for them to surface late. That was so stupid that its laughable. They could have just as easily put tracking devices inside the firearms. Especially an ar15 rifle buttstock. They could have literally tracked every movement.

The government and the extremely wealthy in this country are defiantly trying to take away the firearms of "the people" and keep upping their own personal armed security at the same time. "The only reason why you want to take my guns away is so that you can do something to me that you can't do while I have guns"

 

[Cygnus]

I really think the ATF had good intentions. They were trying to track how guns got from dealers and into criminals hands. I don't really think they had a focus on getting them into Mexico, they just happened to end up there. The Mexican criminals don't need to get guns from the US, they just buy full auto weapons from South America and mainly from the Mexican police and military.

The problem was beyond poor execution and lack of planning. Don't just document the serial numbers and give them to criminals and wait for them to surface late. That was so stupid that its laughable. They could have just as easily put tracking devices inside the firearms. Especially an ar15 rifle buttstock. They could have literally tracked every movement.

The government and the extremely wealthy in this country are defiantly trying to take away the firearms of "the people" and keep upping their own personal armed security at the same time. "The only reason why you want to take my guns away is so that you can do something to me that you can't do while I have guns"

You might want to look into little more. They DID use tracking devices in at least some. Problem was the radio Shak batteries died. For real.......

 

[pudly]

I really think the ATF had good intentions. They were trying to track how guns got from dealers and into criminals hands. I don't really think they had a focus on getting them into Mexico, they just happened to end up there. The Mexican criminals don't need to get guns from the US, they just buy full auto weapons from South America and mainly from the Mexican police and military.

Sorry, but there was never any good faith plan to catch anyone with Fast and Furious. They were funneling guns to Mexican drug cartels and wanted to use the gun trafficking as an excuse to clamp down on gun rights for Americans. They succeeded only in a limited fashion on that last item. I collected a lot of information about various "gun runner" programs here.