Fed Appeals Court Denies Illinois Attorney Rehearing

[Iurobz]

Looks like Illinois will have to follow through on concealed carry. Sorry if this is a repost, looks like is was from today.

Concealed carry Illinois - chicagotribune.com

 

[mrjarrell]

Here's the ruling, (written by a judge who was against it, as far as I can tell).

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/Q00LR0HM.pdf

 

[cobber]

Hang on, they only got denied an en banc hearing.

Okay you federal practitioners. Does that mean no rehearing at all now?

From the dissent:

To illustrate the dangers posed by lawful use of
firearms in public, consider a deadly confrontation on
the streets of New York City in August 2012, when
police confronted an armed man who had just shot and
killed another man. The police officers were well trained
in both how to shoot and when to shoot and not shoot.
The officers fatally shot the gunman, but the officers’
many shots also wounded nine bystanders.
I intend no criticism of the officers, who confronted an urgent, dangerous
situation that few have experienced first-hand.
We will always need armed police officers, and some
harm will be unavoidable despite their training, skill,
and experience. But consider how much worse the situation
on the crowded streets of New York might have
been if several civilians, without the officers’ training
but carrying firearms lawfully, had tried to help with
their own firearms. Unless the Supreme Court is prepared
to embrace the view attributed to it by the panel
majority, that the Second Amendment right to bear
arms does not depend on “casualty counts,” 702 F.3d
at 939, we should not assume that the logic of
Heller extends naturally and without qualification to firearms in public.

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And how about the dangers posed by unlawful use?​

 

[Iurobz]

Here's the ruling, (written by a judge who was against it, as far as I can tell).

I'd say. He did everything but hand write the most restrictive law he could come up with himself.

 

[Hiker1911]

Illinois lawmakers (and Attorney General), stop stalling and pass a law in keeping with the recent ruling that mandates state lawmakers to do so. The June 8th deadline to pass a carry law is nearly here.

This is not surprising at all.

If the lawmakers complain about not having enough time, blame it on Ms. Madigan.

 

[Shadow8088]

Here's the ruling, (written by a judge who was against it, as far as I can tell).

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/Q00LR0HM.pdf

page taken down.. at least, I can't reach it

 

[mrjarrell]

page taken down.. at least, I can't reach it

Weird. The link doesn't work, but the link from their website (which goes to the same place) does. Here it is again, as well as a backup to their site.

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/Q00Z6YM8.pdf

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx?caseno=12-1269&submit=showdkt

 

[spirit390]

For the legal scholars: what happens to illinois residents when the legislature fails to pass a bill? Who can force them to pass a bill? Would the people arrested and convicted under the old unconstitutional law have a right to appeal their convictions? I have no doubt in my mind that any bill passed in illinois will be so screwed up that only politically connected democrats and the ultra rich will get them. Recently they allowed people to carry an unloaded gun in a case and a loaded mag outside the case(court ruled it was legal) only if you had a FOID card(illinois residents only) but according to the local sheriff "he didn't care his deputies are going to arrest you anyway and good luck with your court date". So trying to do the right thing is still going to get you arrest and cost you days off of work with a court date. How hard/costly do you think it will be to get your gun back! Same county years ago I was arrested for DUI because I would not give consent to search my car(way before K9s) and when I get to the jail I blow .00 in the machine. But since I was arrested I still had my car towed and imponded($65) and I also had to get a lawyer to show up in court to have my case thrown out. And go figure when they had to secure the car before the tow truck showed up they searched it anyways. So even though you have rights it gets expensive to use them. Especially in no where USA! Rant off