Firing Squads Gaining Traction

[Dim Mak]

You weed to cool your jets my friend. I do not stalk you as you are in my eyes no one. Give it a rest.
I am anything but a liar.

Not sure what cave you are posting from but you really should cool it.

You must be on weed!

 

[Mark 1911]

From some of the stories I've heard regarding lethal injection, the firing squad may actually be quicker and therefore more humane.

I know many say that they don't care if the criminal suffers. That is understandable. But emotions should be kept out of it. Either there is a place for the death penalty or there is not. That topic will always be subject to debate regardless of whether we are for it or against. But as long as the state in question says that there is a place for it, the rationale behind the killing / execution should not be to exact revenge, but justice. Therefore, the motive, objectively speaking, should not be to inflict suffering. The criminal may suffer during the execution, and there are some who may understandably take some satisfaction in that - but that should be secondary.

 

[BigMoose]

And for the record, the way that UTAH used to do it, was one of the rifles (Winchester 30-30) was loaded with a wax bullet cartridge. This provided realistic recoil. (Blanks don't provide realistic recoil)

 

[BE Mike]

You must be on weed!

You've really not added anything of value to the discussion. Please take your personal vendetta to private messages.

 

[Crbn79]

You must be on weed!

 

[chezuki]

I like turtles.

 

[GLOCKMAN23C]

I like the idea of the firing squad, simple, effective, and inexpensive.

 

[CathyInBlue]

You must be on weed!

Churchmouse isn't on weed, but he has been known to spend a lot of time on "the pot".

 

[churchmouse]

Churchmouse isn't on weed, but he has been known to spend a lot of time on "the pot".

Poop posting is a common occurrence on ingo........or so I have been told.

 

[PaulF]

You must be on weed!

You like me I can tell this. I like to give bullies special attention too. I'm full of life like that.

Churchmouse you're the weirdo bully harrassing me everywhere I post and now you just left me a visitor message? If you have such a "full" life just leave me be. Seems like you can dish it out yet you can't take someone calling you on your BS lies!

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[jbranham5173]

I agree with most here ,firing is inexpensive and humane .some people don't deserve to be here , and with technology humans don't have to pull the trigger, set up a software program and set the time and let it go

 

[AA&E]

What happened to thou shall not kill.

Wonderful idea, perhaps you can convince the convicted murders to stop?

 

[shibumiseeker]

I agree with most here ,firing is inexpensive and humane .some people don't deserve to be here , and with technology humans don't have to pull the trigger, set up a software program and set the time and let it go

Putting someone into a cage or some other situation when at a predetermined time they will be killed is not much different than pulling the trigger yourself.

We could chain them to the rocks at low tide and then say the moon and the sun killed them but it won't make it true. We could push them out of an airplane and say it was the impact with the ground that killed them.

I maintain the most humane way to kill someone is when they don't know it is going to happen and it happens so quickly they are not aware of it. The State has all of these byzantine rules and it is almost Kafka-esque in its implementation. Leaving out the whole argument of making them suffer like they made their victims, there are far worse things than dying.

 

[BE Mike]

Putting someone into a cage or some other situation when at a predetermined time they will be killed is not much different than pulling the trigger yourself.

We could chain them to the rocks at low tide and then say the moon and the sun killed them but it won't make it true. We could push them out of an airplane and say it was the impact with the ground that killed them.

I maintain the most humane way to kill someone is when they don't know it is going to happen and it happens so quickly they are not aware of it. The State has all of these byzantine rules and it is almost Kafka-esque in its implementation. Leaving out the whole argument of making them suffer like they made their victims, there are far worse things than dying.

I actually thought the suggestions regarding firing squad executions were to spare the psyche of the officials tasked with carrying out the punishment. I've always considered a swift death by gunshot to be humane. That's one thing most ethical hunters want for their quarry.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

This is the "for the greater good" argument. The death penalty has absolutely no purpose. It's not used uniformly, it's not a deterrent, it doesn't save money. it doesn't make people safer.

I bet some prison guards would disagree, if they were still alive to do so.

Florida killer who murdered prison guard with spoon executed | Daily Mail Online

Prison isn't some magical land where the violent criminals are no longer violent. Corpses don't kill guards or other prisoners.

And that is why I asked the question.....what do we do to fix this.
I believe that any system will have cracks in it and someone is going to fall through them.

If the criteria is 100%, no system will ever live up to that. The system is already tilted in the accused's favor, and that's enshrined in the Constitution. Trials are often won by keeping the truth out of court, suppressing evidence or excluding witnesses. Are there wrongful convictions? Sure. At what ratio to the guilty released to victimize more people, though? I'm open to suggestions, but I think an overhaul of the CJ system is well above my pay grade and if the answers were simple we'd have already implemented them.

 

[Shiver]

So... Where would one go to volunteer to be a trigger puller? Or would selection be like jury duty?

 

[Shiver]

I can already see this devolving into a death penalty argument thread.

I really get tired of being right.

 

[churchmouse]

I really get tired of being right.

How else would this end up. We are talking about executions.
It did not take a rocket scientist to see this coming. It was the only available path.

 

[88E30M50]

I'm Ok with it. Good chance to test ammo, too.

I like that idea. Why waste good ballistic gelatin when you have the perfect test media right there. All they need to do is to have some ammo manufacturers standing by and as soon as the criminal is pronounced dead, let them make use of the carcass for a couple of hours. For some criminals, it will be the first time in their miserable existence that they've been useful.

 

[Shiver]

How else would this end up. We are talking about executions.
It did not take a rocket scientist to see this coming. It was the only available path.

It started out, and I'm assuming the OP meant for it to stay, a thread about firing squads being used as a means of execution. Not a debate on the merits of the death penalty. No, it did not take a massive intellect to see this going in a bad way quickly. Seems like most threads on any given forum though. People want to interject their own opinion where is isn't asked for, nor wanted or needed. I myself am as well guilty. Such is the internet.

Up against the wall I say.