First ruling by ATF for 2015...

[CathyInBlue]

Would you really use a hand drill to complete an 80% lower?

Sure, if you had an incredibly steady hand, but even small, benchtop drill presses are incredibly affordable and entirely usable for 80% lower finishing. Finishing other types of receivers? Dunno.

if he borrows it from you and does the work at his house, then no.

As I read 2015-1, even if he comes over to your place and uses your workshop with your tools in it, it's kosher, provided you do not lay hands on the tools or reciever during the process (because then you'd be the one doing the "manufacturing"), or take payment (even promises of trading favours) for the use of your workshop/tools (because then you'd be a "business", in the ATF's estimation). Do neither, and even though it's happening at your place, you're not a firearm manufacturer nor a business, and the GCA doesn't apply to the acts.

 

[gregkl]

Well, since I have never received my crowd fund lowers, I won't have to worry about it.

I would think this could affect the 80% mfrs. out there. I see the market segment getting so muddy that many will just buy a 100% lower.

 

[Destro]

Well, since I have never received my crowd fund lowers, I won't have to worry about it.

I would think this could affect the 80% mfrs. out there. I see the market segment getting so muddy that many will just buy a 100% lower.

the ruling has nothing to do with virgin 80% receiver manfacturing

 

[sloughfoot]

A law enforcement agency that writes laws that they will be enforcing?

Does nobody else smell tyranny?

 

[gregkl]

the ruling has nothing to do with virgin 80% receiver manfacturing

Understood. People who will purchase the 80% lowers to finish may get concerned with the changes to the laws regarding the finishing and ownership, transfer, etc. of them. This could cause a decrease in demand which translates into lower sales for the mfrs. Couple that to the low price of 100% lowers and well, put it this way, I won't be investing in any companies that make 80% lowers anymore.

 

[Destro]

Understood. People who will purchase the 80% lowers to finish may get concerned with the changes to the laws regarding the finishing and ownership, transfer, etc. of them. This could cause a decrease in demand which translates into lower sales for the mfrs. Couple that to the low price of 100% lowers and well, put it this way, I won't be investing in any companies that make 80% lowers anymore.

True...there is really not much savings to be had with 80% lowers in the long run, I always looked at them as a niche market

 

[Double T]

In the business...ie making a profit. **** the BATFE. If it's for personal use and not for profit, this ruling doesn't mean a damn thing. People can still buddy up and make stuff, so long as no one is charged.

 

[silentvoice71]

new 80% lower ruling

ATF Issues First Ruling of the New Year ? Is It The End Of 80% Lowers? | Prince Law Offices, P.C.



What's is this junk all about? Someone help me sort through the letter here please?

 

[rugertoter]

Yeeeaaahhh. Saw this one coming...I knew it was only a matter of time.

 

[CathyInBlue]

Where is the push back from the NSSF? NRA? Anyone?

 

[Hop]

This is !!! Nearly ALL manufacturers sub contract out small parts to be made for their own products. What's next? Force all those small part manufacturers to have an FFL? Do suppressor companies make every single part in house?

How do we kick start reigning in this out of control alphabet agency?

 

[Double T]

This is !!! Nearly ALL manufacturers sub contract out small parts to be made for their own products. What's next? Force all those small part manufacturers to have an FFL? Do suppressor companies make every single part in house?

How do we kick start reigning in this out of control alphabet agency?

Ignoring unconstitutional laws won't work. ALA Ruby Ridge and Waco.