Fargo,
The trainers here don't need lectures on humanity, PR, or philanthropy. Nearly every training outfit here, including advertising site supporters, has - and continues to - on occasion give away free training at their discretion, through drawings, contests, or other means. Several within the last month alone.
To make the earlier analogy more apples-to-apples accurate, it would be as if Fargo, who is known to from time to time give away his services pro bono, and who, just within the last month alone had invested a sizeable chunk in a new facility and/or additional equipment - and had publically given away free services, saw a post proposing the self-described "excellent idea" that "INGO" "push" the trainers (in this analogy it would be lawyers) into something Fargo and others are already doing on their own. When this "idea" is met with less than an overwhelming back-patting enthusiastic response, the originator responds to any and every post in a somewhat argumentative fashion, insulting their intelligence by telling them it was "taken out of context" and/or impugning their character and ethics by implying that they are "selfish", using phrases like "true colors have been shown". Subsequent posts removed all doubt (as if there was any), and any benefit of the doubt, as to the meaning of the original post.
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As far as firearms and self-defense training:
There is nothing preventing anyone, with or without "combat experience" from offering as much free training as they want, to whomever they want. A line is crossed when one or more persons try to set themselves up as arbiters/managers/"needy person" finders and propose that others, including such as the owners and staff of a website, join in a "push" to "urge" small businesses to give away products and/or services (which, as noted, they are doing already), on a schedule and to recipients determined by this self-appointed group or council or ... committee.
ETA: Now we have some proposing a different (yet not new at all) idea saying the equivalent of "What if we take up a collection to send someone to get training?" Not at all the same as the earlier idea and again, like the free training giveaways, purchasing or gifting to others has been done and is still being done by other students, friends and family able and willing. That is each individual's choice, to give what is one's own to give. One trainer said as much, that when one is purchasing products and services, it matters little if at all who writes the checks.
The trainers here don't need lectures on humanity, PR, or philanthropy. Nearly every training outfit here, including advertising site supporters, has - and continues to - on occasion give away free training at their discretion, through drawings, contests, or other means. Several within the last month alone.
To make the earlier analogy more apples-to-apples accurate, it would be as if Fargo, who is known to from time to time give away his services pro bono, and who, just within the last month alone had invested a sizeable chunk in a new facility and/or additional equipment - and had publically given away free services, saw a post proposing the self-described "excellent idea" that "INGO" "push" the trainers (in this analogy it would be lawyers) into something Fargo and others are already doing on their own. When this "idea" is met with less than an overwhelming back-patting enthusiastic response, the originator responds to any and every post in a somewhat argumentative fashion, insulting their intelligence by telling them it was "taken out of context" and/or impugning their character and ethics by implying that they are "selfish", using phrases like "true colors have been shown". Subsequent posts removed all doubt (as if there was any), and any benefit of the doubt, as to the meaning of the original post.
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As far as firearms and self-defense training:
There is nothing preventing anyone, with or without "combat experience" from offering as much free training as they want, to whomever they want. A line is crossed when one or more persons try to set themselves up as arbiters/managers/"needy person" finders and propose that others, including such as the owners and staff of a website, join in a "push" to "urge" small businesses to give away products and/or services (which, as noted, they are doing already), on a schedule and to recipients determined by this self-appointed group or council or ... committee.
ETA: Now we have some proposing a different (yet not new at all) idea saying the equivalent of "What if we take up a collection to send someone to get training?" Not at all the same as the earlier idea and again, like the free training giveaways, purchasing or gifting to others has been done and is still being done by other students, friends and family able and willing. That is each individual's choice, to give what is one's own to give. One trainer said as much, that when one is purchasing products and services, it matters little if at all who writes the checks.
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"pinko commie socialists". The individual? No. The idea? Possibly, if and when it ventures into that area. Bashing? Not good at all, either way, especially between those who were presumably on the same team.
