Gary Destroying ~5,000 Firearms

[Jubbie]

Gary guns slated for destruction :: Lake County :: Post-Tribune

GARY -- The Gary Police Department stands to take in at least $35,000 by letting a Lafayette business destroy thousands of guns at Gary's Public Safety Building.
The city's Board of Public Works and Safety approved an agreement Wednesday with Certified Firearms Solutions. Under the terms of the deal, the company will pay Gary $7 for each gun it is allowed to destroy.
"This will be done at the police department in the property room," Tom Jones of CFS said.
Lt. Samuel Roberts, a spokesman for the Gary Police Department, said it has as many as 5,000 firearms ready to be destroyed by CFS.
Cmdr. Jarrett Bridgeman said the destruction of the guns will be video and audio taped, and GPD officials will be present. He said the process will likely begin this month.
City Controller Celita Green said the money generated by the agreement will go to GPD's law enforcement training and education fund.
CFS will reimburse Gary up to $1,000 if it destroys a gun in error, according to the agreement.
City attorney Carl Jones said the guns shouldn't be destroyed unless there is an order from a judge.
Tom Jones said his company has had to make one reimbursement previously in Starke County. He and the city's attorney said the reimbursement clause was added as a precaution.
"Hopefully there won't be a need for the $1,000 reimbursement," Carl Jones said.
Tom Jones said his company will destroy the weapons by running them through a bandsaw, splitting them in two.
His company will take possession of the scrap, he said, and sell it.
Gary's agreement with CFS lasts until June 30 but could be extended.

I'm wondering how a gun can be destroyed in error. Lets say they cut a bunch in half, then checked the numbers. Oops, how did this one get cut in half? How does a firearm slip into this bunch, unless the owner of it just kinda left it laying around in the wrong spot.

 

[mertbl]

Destroyed at $7 per gun? They could sell them to us legal gun owners for even $100 and make a small fortune. Might even be a good enough reason to go to Gary.

 

[jmsnell]

Is there some law prohibiting GPD from selling them to licensed citizens? They auction cars all the time to licensed citizens...

 

[Expat]

Some counties sell recovered or confiscated guns others destroy them. Can you imagine the cash that 5000 guns being auctioned would generate if they were even of moderate quality and kind.

 

[Gabriel]

They could sell them to us legal gun owners for even $100 and make a small fortune.

I'd say most of those guns started out in the hands of legal gun owners.

 

[PatriotPride]

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Like you all said, if they sold even a nominal amount of firearms at $100 each, they would make a MUCH larger profit.

 

[j706]

Stupid people in this world. They whine about not having any money and then destroy firearms. Perhaps they should sell the guys at auction and send some of thier new people to firearms training. After all just this year almost all of their recruits failed firearms during thier ILEA academy.

 

[Waynetucky10]

I attended an auction of 130 guns 3 weeks ago and it brought in 45000-55000.What a waste of resource.

 

[Limpy88]

this site has been over similar things like this a hundred times. if one gun out of those 5000 is used for the smallest crime there is potional to get sued for millons of dollars by some greedy bastard.

 

[youngda9]

So sad...would have been a great yard sale.

 

[revsaxon]

Oh that hurts... I would be willing to pay them them 10$ a gun. Talk about the perfect thing for an INGO group buy...

 

[04DarkShadowGT]

But you have to understand their position and the fact this is a lawyer up society. If just one of the guns they sold was used in a crime it would cost the city many times what they would get from the sale of all of them. Not to mention the incredible bad press the city would get from doing it at all and then if one was used in crime, holy cow.

 

[Jubbie]

Can't squeeze anything out of the broke city of Gary. As for giving it a bad rap, you apparently don't know Gary very well. The only good thing in Gary is the Railcats ballpark. From what I hear it's a great park, but I don't see it worth driving through/into Gary to see a ballgame. The city could greatly use the money and it wouldn't change the weekly body count. If they are worried about the wrong hands buying the guns up in Gary, then they could set up shop at the 1500. So long as the firearms still have their #'s they can reissue them while keeping the history.

 

[04DarkShadowGT]

Can't squeeze anything out of the broke city of Gary. As for giving it a bad rap, you apparently don't know Gary very well. The only good thing in Gary is the Railcats ballpark. From what I hear it's a great park, but I don't see it worth driving through/into Gary to see a ballgame. The city could greatly use the money and it wouldn't change the weekly body count. If they are worried about the wrong hands buying the guns up in Gary, then they could set up shop at the 1500. So long as the firearms still have their #'s they can reissue them while keeping the history.

Im well aware of Gary and its issues, and that is just one more reason for them to NOT do it. Can you imagine the headlines and backlash they would have to deal with when a city that has the perception of being very unsafe sells 5,000 guns back to its residents.

 

[jmb79]

Im well aware of Gary and its issues, and that is just one more reason for them to NOT do it. Can you imagine the headlines and backlash they would have to deal with when a city that has the perception of being very unsafe sells 5,000 guns back to its residents.

They would not have to sell them back to Gary's residents. They could and probably would, sell them to a distributor/wholesaler, who would then sell them to gun shops across the county. Many police department do this all the time and there is not a flood of lawsuits against them.

Mr. and Mrs. Gungho had a number of police trade in Glock 22 pistols a few months ago. They were in good shape, priced very reasonably and, as I understand, sold like hotcakes. I doubt very seriously that anyone will ever sue the police department that traded them in. Unless the police department commits negligence (e.g., sells a firearm directly to a felon), there is no liability.

 

[12bee]

Here is what this firm does and if you read the last sentence in #3 it is a heck of a deal for the company.They can't be scrapping them for scrap metal prices as the last I knew scrap iron was less than $200/ton.I figure they must be reselling the parts that aren't serialized.They sure didn't tell the newspaper that they are going to recycle and salvage all but the receiver.The only thing destroyed is the receiver (read #2)

How It Works

1. A complete inventory of confiscated or other firearms that are candidates for destruction or disposal by your agency is compiled and a value for your inventory is determined.

2. CFS arrives at your location and under your direct supervision, disassembles and destroys all BATF regulated parts of your firearms inventory.

3. All receivers or serialized parts are either torch cut or sawn in such manner as to make it impossible to reassemble into a working firearm. CFS employs the same procedures used by the Department Of Defense to destroy or “demil” retired or obsolete firearms. Non-firearm, non-serialized parts are salvaged and or recycled.

4. CFS can reimburse your department with these options:

• Check
• Trade in credit for law enforcements supplies with
your usual vendor
• Funds designated for firearms training for your staff.

 

[12bee]

I have it figured out now, a Lafayette phone number on this link: Contact and a Gunbroker auction that ended Llama Minimax-45 Slide Barrel & Parts Kit 1911 St : Parts Kits at GunBroker.com

 

[T-rav]

I think up here in FTW Sheriff sould usable parts and made quite a bit of money to put towards the public range. This sounds like something the UN has their hands in as well.

 

[Sgt Rock]

Gary, the murder capital of Indiana. While I agree, most of those guns started out with legal gun owners, It's pretty safe to say that if GPD has them, they were used in crimes by "less than law abiding citizens". Still, what a waste.

 

[fullauto 45]

The guns are stripped and all parts are sold on gunbroker. Just the receivers are cut (shutter) up. So this place gives them $7 each and makes big money on the parts. I have seen the "parts" listed on gunbroker.