Genuine IN LTCH?

[rlmx]

How would a person know if they are looking at a genuine LTCH vs. a falsified document? I have applied for the same, but I have never seen a license.

I am going to sell a weapon. I want to try to avoid the unthinkable.

 

[LEaSH]

You wont be able to know for certain.

If you're that concerned about "the unthinkable" have it transfered through an FFL.

Edit*: Of course you are not legally required to do so.

 

[VERT]

Only sure way to be sure is for the police to verify the LTCH is still valid.

 

[chezuki]

If you are that skeptical of the buyer, sell to someone else or make them go through a FFL. If you believe they might forge a LTCH, then you have reason to believe they might not be a "Proper Person" and selling to them probably isn't the best idea anyway.

 

[barnstormer37]

How would a person know if they are looking at a genuine LTCH vs. a falsified document? I have applied for the same, but I have never seen a license.

I am going to sell a weapon. I want to try to avoid the unthinkable.

If you never have seen one, that must mean you don't have one. You are selling private party to private party. If it was me, I'd make a bill of sale and receipt, include the serial number, copy the buyer's driver license, take pictures and make copies for the buyer and yourself. And have him use FFL for good measure. Others may chime in, but maybe it would be easiest just for both of you to go to FFL together and have FFL run him?

 

[jwh20]

The Indiana LTCH is just laser printed black on pink paper. It would be simple to counterfit.

See the LAST page of this document for a sample:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/indiana.pdf

Not a lot you can do to validate it. As noted, if in doubt, pay the extra money to have an FFL do the transfer.

 

[chezuki]

If it was me, I'd make a bill of sale and receipt, include the serial number, copy the buyer's driver license, take pictures and make copies for the buyer and yourself. And have him use FFL for good measure.

"If it was you", I'd buy from someone else. I'll be happy to show ID or LTCH to prove residency, but you're not copying my documents.

 

[rlmx]

Is it possible for a person to have a valid IN LTCH without being able to pass a NICS?

 

[jwh20]

Is it possible for a person to have a valid IN LTCH without being able to pass a NCIS?

I guess the question is what does the ISP check when deciding to issue a LTCH or not? If it's NCIS, then I suppose if you were "clean" when the LTCH was issued and then later had something come up that invalided you to pass an NCIS check, you might be in that condition.

But would that invalidate your Indiana LTCH? I'm not sure of that answer...

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Is it possible for a person to have a valid IN LTCH without being able to pass a NCIS?

Yes, at least temporarily.

 

[fallenangel1]

This just seems a little paranoid to me. Either you sell to the buyer or you don't. It seems odd that you are asking about buyers having and LTCH when you don't even have one. :-/

 

[marv]

I've encountered two prospects who were reluctant to go thru FFL. Both did not want to pay transfer fee and insisted on direct ship (handgun). The deals fell thru after I quoted shipping charges. I'm not tore up over it. BTW, both claimed to have LTCH.

 

[seedubs1]

If you're shipping, only ship to a ffl.

Face to face, ask the following:
1). Are you an indiana resident
2). Is it legal for you to own a firearm
If they answer yes to both, you're ok to sell to them.

Asking to see their LTCH, copying any of their documents, recording their information, etc... Is overkill, and I personally wouldn't let you do any of that. I don't want you, the seller, to have my info, be able to look up where I live, and know that I have firearms in my house to steal at a later date.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Yes, at least temporarily.

This. And I can print one up in about 2 minutes that lookes real

 

[Robin Hood]

National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)

 

[buckstopshere]

This just seems a little paranoid to me. Either you sell to the buyer or you don't. It seems odd that you are asking about buyers having and LTCH when you don't even have one. :-/

FTW

As the OP demonstrates, you don't have to have a LTCH to own a firearm or buy one via private sale.

It's your property so you make the rules but if you're this concerned, FFL would be your best route. You will most likely lose some buyers who don't want to deal with all that.

Seems the progressive, MSM agenda of demonizing guns and gun owners is working, even within the ranks of gun owners. Nefarious characters are everywhere and are buying their guns from law abiding citizens!

 

[barnstormer37]

I'm not sure, but I think I do not like nefarious characters.

 

[Hookeye]

One can tell if genuine LTCH by also referencing their INGO post count

 

[rlmx]

This just seems a little paranoid to me. Either you sell to the buyer or you don't. It seems odd that you are asking about buyers having and LTCH when you don't even have one. :-/

When I purchased the weapon, I was screened via a NICS. If I sell to a private buyer, I would like to have some indication that I am not selling to a violent criminal that could not pass a NICS. Calling that "paranoid" is ignoring risk and logic.

I get all the pitfalls of background checks. I understand (and agree) that the system likely has a high failure rate, as the NRA points out. On the other hand, if I take zero precaution, then I would be foolish.

And don't twist my words, citizens that are above the law have the right to purchase, own, and carry firearms. Period, end of story.

There definitely are not any criminals that would ever try to buy a weapon by sone means where they wouldn't have to go through a bacground check. Sure, got it, OK.

 

[Bill B]

National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)

I was thinking the same thing, right after thinking "what the heck does the Navy have to do with firearms?"