Gun store owner halts BATF raid

[TheWabbit]

ATF just raided Ares Armor.

[video=youtube;6gsmlJSpWvk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsmlJSpWvk[/video]

 

[rockhopper46038]

I hope the owner was prescient enough to know these guys were going to defy the injunction and that he moved, burned or otherwise destroyed the records.

 

[ryknoll3]

So is ATF going to be visiting the buyer's list and seizing EP lowers?

 

[TheWabbit]

So is ATF going to be visiting the buyer's list and seizing EP lowers?

lowers, yeah right. Any parts attached to that lower will be evidence and seized.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I hope the owner was prescient enough to know these guys were going to defy the injunction and that he moved, burned or otherwise destroyed the records.

According to FB if he did, he didnt let on in his latest update:
BREAKING: ATF Raids Ares Armor In Direct Violation of Court Issued Restraining Order

 

[GunSlinger]

According to FB if he did, he didnt let on in his latest update:
BREAKING: ATF Raids Ares Armor In Direct Violation of Court Issued Restraining Order

Wow!!

How would the ATF get around the RO...or did they just ignore it? Looking forward to more detail.

 

[Okimeister]

Aren't they the ones that NutNfancy did a video thats on youtube? They had a sign that the city wanted taken down because it had a AR15 on it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzBkcUZnm-w

 

[Trigger Time]

Wow!!

How would the ATF get around the RO...or did they just ignore it? Looking forward to more detail.

Wouldn't be the first time the govt used one judge to go around another. And people say they aren't on a list by filling ou a 4473. This just shows you that if they want to know who's buying what they will get it. I like to see an explanation of what makes their lower illegal. Does anyone have a picture of one? I never even heard of this place before now.

 

[Integraholic]

Wouldn't be the first time the govt used one judge to go around another. And people say they aren't on a list by filling ou a 4473. This just shows you that if they want to know who's buying what they will get it. I like to see an explanation of what makes their lower illegal. Does anyone have a picture of one? I never even heard of this place before now.

The owners of the 80% lowers didn't fill out 4473's. It's not a receiver until they mill out the rest of the part and manufacture their own gun.

 

[Sgtusmc]

I'm not understanding what's illegal about the lowers in question. To my understanding they are polymer lowers with divots where you should drill the holes and the trigger group area to be cleared is of a different color. All you have to do is get rid of all the plastic that is of a particular color. Did the ATF think that this didn't make it a "true" 80% lower or that it was too easy?

 

[Sgtusmc]

Maybe this got some attention

 

[Trigger Time]

The owners of the 80% lowers didn't fill out 4473's. It's not a receiver until they mill out the rest of the part and manufacture their own gun.

Yes I know this. My point was that if they are going to raid a business just to get a list of customers who bought parts, they just have to walk into a gun store and ask for the 4473's. Or wait till thy lose their ffl. Instant list.

 

[Trigger Time]

It has to be that during the manufacturing process part of the lower is complete before it's then filled in with the other color of plastic. So even though they aren't selling them at that stage they still are more than just 80% for a time. That's my best guess.

 

[Okimeister]

I almost pruchased one of those lowers a few weeks ago. Fortunately I didn't otherwise I'd be on another list/

 

[Hop]

I would have been in that store today had I gone to Cali for work next week. So the stink is over the manufacturing process. ATF thinks the second colored plastic piece was inserted AFTER the polymer was formed so it was 1st a firearm and unregistered. EP says the polymer was always molded around that insert.

Zero stock at EP:
80% Lower Receivers - 80 Percent Lower

 

[Archbishop]

I bought one of their aluminum 80% Probably gonna end up on another list. Sure it's not the first time. Anybody have a jig for this I can borrow?

 

[Excalibur]

Looks like **** has finally hit the fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQ3Yk-th0E#t=182

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gsmlJSpWvk

 

[HoughMade]

Well, I would like to get a look at the TRO language.

 

[Expat]

You can not flout the will of our Overlords.

 

[Sgtusmc]

I would buy one of those for $50 from EP if there were any actually in stock. I think the stink is mostly about them not taking down the sign and the city council put the dogs on them for non-compliance to their authoritayyy.