Health Question

[Ingomike]

Haha you guys are fun! But yeah, this is why I thought I'd test the waters, before I share any personal experiences. No reason to discuss something that no one wants to touch. Skepticism is healthy, if it increases objectivity.
I'd love to post questions just to get people thinking critically and objectively about their health, but if it turns into a crap show rather than a civil discussion, then I won't bother. Maybe some things are still just too taboo to even speak openly about, even if it means the difference between diabetes and a healthy, independent life, for example.

I predict that this is similar to the reformed smoker or alcoholic that for some inexplicable reason feels compelled to proselytize to others, others that do not have their same problem.

 

[mikebol]

Processed food and High Fructose Corn Syrup would be my top two...

 

[HoughMade]

I predict that this is similar to the reformed smoker or alcoholic that for some inexplicable reason feels compelled to proselytize to others, others that do not have their same problem.

This is where being a formerly fat guy who lost 96# going moderate to low carb comes in handy. Here's my proselytizing...and very few seem to mind:



2023 will be year 19 of not being a fat guy anymore.

 

[jsharmon7]

 

[Shadow01]

The only acceptable answer is yes.

 

[printcraft]

The only acceptable answer is yes.

 

[pablanu3]

I predict that this is similar to the reformed smoker or alcoholic that for some inexplicable reason feels compelled to proselytize to others, others that do not have their same problem.

I suppose in a way. I've seen too many people I care about die avoidable deaths when the answer is staring us in the face every day. And I'm talking otherwise "healthy" people, who ran cross country daily. I was one of those who thought I was healthy, never eating processed of fast food, yet I was getting closer and closer to the common causes of death in this area of the world. It's even worse in this part of the state.

Anyways, my posts might not be appealing to everyone, but if it can get even one person thinking outside the system, then that's one more person who'll have a better chance of living to see their great grandchildren.
The nice part is, it's a free country, and people can choose for themselves whether to read or listen to others' ideas. But, like a library, the more information we have out there and published, the more it helps people make decisions for themselves. But if we limit that, then people only get one narrative. Imagine a library with just a handful of books all saying the same thing in different ways...that's how Google searches are getting these days, but with the recent addition of "fact checkers" to keep you in line in case you read the "wrong" thing.

 

[pablanu3]

The correct answer is "lifestyle". And yes, it is a holistic answer, not a single element.

Right on!

 

[GregD]

Guy most of us come here to wind down and relax . . . not to have you preach to us and tell us what we are doing wrong.
Most of us are waiting for the sails pitch next.

 

[bobzilla]

Lets not forget those of us that lost the genetics lottery. Eating healthy, exercising regularly and having your triglycerides spike at 40 is fun. When my triglyceride score looks like my SAT results when I'm doing all the "right" things that sucks.

FIL has a wierd genetic issue that turns green vegeables into a form of cholesterol that requires him to have a $1500 every 2 week injection. The many is far from obese, but lost the genetic lottery as well.

Dad and I have the widow maker. We have to watch our health because of that. Yay. Genetics isn't the only factor, but it is one of them for sure.

 

[cg21]

I suppose in a way. I've seen too many people I care about die avoidable deaths when the answer is staring us in the face every day. And I'm talking otherwise "healthy" people, who ran cross country daily. I was one of those who thought I was healthy, never eating processed of fast food, yet I was getting closer and closer to the common causes of death in this area of the world. It's even worse in this part of the state.

Anyways, my posts might not be appealing to everyone, but if it can get even one person thinking outside the system, then that's one more person who'll have a better chance of living to see their great grandchildren.
The nice part is, it's a free country, and people can choose for themselves whether to read or listen to others' ideas. But, like a library, the more information we have out there and published, the more it helps people make decisions for themselves. But if we limit that, then people only get one narrative. Imagine a library with just a handful of books all saying the same thing in different ways...that's how Google searches are getting these days, but with the recent addition of "fact checkers" to keep you in line in case you read the "wrong" thing.

What are you saying is the problem?

 

[spencer rifle]

Eat right, exercise, die anyway.

SWMBO always eats balanced and healthy, but was put on a no carbs/no sugar/no dairy/no grains diet for her inflammation issue by a California "doctor." Didn't help the inflammation but he nearly killed her. She got down to 85 lbs. before we said "ENOUGH!" She exercises regularly (doctors don't believe her), eats healthy (doctors don't believe her), and their answer is eventually "We don't know." SO HOW ABOUT SENDING US TO SOMEONE WHO DOES?

Genetics is a b****.

 

[mmpsteve]

What are you saying is the problem?

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[bobzilla]

Eat right, exercise, die anyway.

SWMBO always eats balanced and healthy, but was put on a no carbs/no sugar/no dairy/no grains diet for her inflammation issue by a California "doctor." Didn't help the inflammation but he nearly killed her. She got down to 85 lbs. before we said "ENOUGH!" She exercises regularly (doctors don't believe her), eats healthy (doctors don't believe her), and their answer is eventually "We don't know." SO HOW ABOUT SENDING US TO SOMEONE WHO DOES?

Genetics is a b****.

we had a doctor that was 100% on the BMI train. you had to be at that weight on that chart or you were obese. That chart had me at 160. A 18 I was 173, wore a 44L jacket and had a 29"waist and 32" inseam. I was as thin as I could get, but I come from a family that bred large bones and muscle mass. We bulk. To get to 160 I would need to become sedantary, and cut my calorie intake to 1000 a day. Didn't sound like the place I wanted to be. My BIL is my height and he does weigh 160. But he also has 1/3 the muscle mass and bone structure. He is a classic runners physique and I would have fit the body builder.

Now, that doesn't mean I haven't lost my way and made poor choices. We all do. Life gets in there. Eating for me is a coping mechanism for my anxiety and depression so yeah...I make poor choices in that regard. But I can tell you I don't want to live life being miserable just so I can die healthy.

 

[HoughMade]

 

[Basher]

What are you saying is the problem?

@pablanu3 this is your cue lol!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I come from a family that bred large bones

 

[HoughMade]

If only there were a YouTube channel or Instagram account where I could be introduced to the factors that would improve my health.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

 

[bwframe]

I suppose in a way. I've seen too many people I care about die avoidable deaths when the answer is staring us in the face every day. And I'm talking otherwise "healthy" people, who ran cross country daily. I was one of those who thought I was healthy, never eating processed of fast food, yet I was getting closer and closer to the common causes of death in this area of the world. It's even worse in this part of the state.

Anyways, my posts might not be appealing to everyone, but if it can get even one person thinking outside the system, then that's one more person who'll have a better chance of living to see their great grandchildren.
The nice part is, it's a free country, and people can choose for themselves whether to read or listen to others' ideas. But, like a library, the more information we have out there and published, the more it helps people make decisions for themselves. But if we limit that, then people only get one narrative. Imagine a library with just a handful of books all saying the same thing in different ways...that's how Google searches are getting these days, but with the recent addition of "fact checkers" to keep you in line in case you read the "wrong" thing.

What's your game here friend?

Most folks come to a gun forum to talk about guns.

Your contributions are interesting. We have numerous threads where they would fit. Seeing that you are not lost for words, one might assume you'd know how to search the forum to post your interests accordingly?

This thread appears that you are fishing for something?