Hello. Liberal gun owner here.

[foszoe]

Welcome! PM me for advice if needed to help you enjoy your stay! I think you're the first of your group to join. Hopefully the others will be here soon.

 

[tcecil88]

Did that dude seriously only make it 2 hours or so? That's hilarious.
I just caught up on his posts. That dude was a tool. Good riddance.

 

[BJHay]

Welcome.

I'm a dues-paying member of the Liberal Gun Club.
These are real-deal gun people who advocate for more gun freedoms.
I'm in favor of all people who understand and support responsible gun ownership coming together for a common cause.

https://theliberalgunclub.com/

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I guess, but thanks Charlie. Sort of easy if you list a full name that unusual , if real, and it's the only one that came up on Facebook

www.facebook.com/zach.OCaeleigh

Perusing a few of those posts, that’s got to be the same guy.

 

[KellyinAvon]

This is the thread that just keeps on giving.

 

[printcraft]

This is the thread that just keeps on giving.

Like a venereal disease…

 

[bobzilla]

Perusing a few of those posts, that’s got to be the same guy.

Pretty much what I had deduced as well. Dude has a hardon for IMPD

 

[Wabatuckian]

Welcome.

I'm a dues-paying member of the Liberal Gun Club.
These are real-deal gun people who advocate for more gun freedoms.
I'm in favor of all people who understand and support responsible gun ownership coming together for a common cause.

https://theliberalgunclub.com/

That's what I said. Except I'm fairly conservative. I just try to open channels to those who believe in gun rights. I'm tired of all the fighting these days.

There are a couple issues I stand firm about: Gun rights, and abortion.

As far as gun rights I think we're in agreement. The LGC seems big on root cause mitigation when it comes to crime involving guns, and I agree.

Abortion is another matter.

Libs: A person's bodily autonomy cannot be usurped by the State.

Me: Bodily autonomy is extremely important, and I'd agree with you wholeheartedly were a child's life not on the line.

Libs: It's not a child until it's born. (This does not compute with me.)

Libs: Conservatives don't care about the child, anyway, nor the mother. Conservatives only care about controlling the woman's body! We're living "A Handmaid's Tale!"

At this point I can only shake my head and walk away. How do you talk to someone who thinks you're trying to control power when really you care about kids not getting killed? How do you argue with someone who thinks the vagina is a magical doorway through which an infant must pass before s/he gains "person" status?

The real issue is Women's rights to bodily autonomy vs an infant's right to life. And I get that argument. I just happen to believe that right to life > bodily autonomy, but I get why some don't.

I do strongly question whether the State really has the right to kill convicts sentenced to death. I'm not sure any government should have the power to kill its people. I'm only sure that the right to take a life is granted when one's own life is threatened, and, therefore, support the woman's right to choose if the pregnancy threatens her own life. Otherwise, no.

But, until we can sit down and talk about this stuff civilly, we'll not get it worked out.

 

[Max Volume]

Who's got the gonads to message him on FB with a big hello from the folks at INGO?

 

[mbkintner]

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Just in case anybody needs it for their "files"...I'm back. For some reason I suddenly needed to conduct some internet searches. If you were wondering...Vica Kerekes.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Libs: It's not a child until it's born. (This does not compute with me.)

my beef is the selective use of the fetus. For abortions, it’s not a person.

For cases like murder, it counts as two lives if the woman is pregnant.

You can’t have it both ways, folks. Either it is or it isn’t.

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

Who's got the gonads to message him on FB with a big hello from the folks at INGO?

Sorry, but I don't have any shill accounts on that platform

 

[Max Volume]

Could message him that he is now in our files. Junior would crap himself.

 

[printcraft]

Could message him that he is now in our files. Junior would crap himself.

 

[BlackGun]

Greetings and to

 

[STFU]

Yep.
Come in in full attack mode.
People get defensive about the attack.
Then:

"Defensive? I'm not being defensive, dammit. What's wrong with you?"
lol

 

[BJHay]

That's what I said. Except I'm fairly conservative. I just try to open channels to those who believe in gun rights. I'm tired of all the fighting these days.

There are a couple issues I stand firm about: Gun rights, and abortion.

As far as gun rights I think we're in agreement. The LGC seems big on root cause mitigation when it comes to crime involving guns, and I agree.

Abortion is another matter.

Libs: A person's bodily autonomy cannot be usurped by the State.

Me: Bodily autonomy is extremely important, and I'd agree with you wholeheartedly were a child's life not on the line.

Libs: It's not a child until it's born. (This does not compute with me.)

Libs: Conservatives don't care about the child, anyway, nor the mother. Conservatives only care about controlling the woman's body! We're living "A Handmaid's Tale!"

At this point I can only shake my head and walk away. How do you talk to someone who thinks you're trying to control power when really you care about kids not getting killed? How do you argue with someone who thinks the vagina is a magical doorway through which an infant must pass before s/he gains "person" status?

The real issue is Women's rights to bodily autonomy vs an infant's right to life. And I get that argument. I just happen to believe that right to life > bodily autonomy, but I get why some don't.

I do strongly question whether the State really has the right to kill convicts sentenced to death. I'm not sure any government should have the power to kill its people. I'm only sure that the right to take a life is granted when one's own life is threatened, and, therefore, support the woman's right to choose if the pregnancy threatens her own life. Otherwise, no.

But, until we can sit down and talk about this stuff civilly, we'll not get it worked out.

Yup, if someone supports gun rights we have common ground. That's my only gateway issue for a politician.
Groups like Pink Pistols, Liberal Gun Owners Club, Asian American Guns Owners Association, and National African American Gun Owners Associate are growing like crazy and pressing for gun rights from within the Democratic party. Sure, we may disagree on other things but we'll have those fights (civilly) later. I'm a dues-paying member of several gun organizations.

Those seeking to obliterate gun rights are formidable. I'm happy to support almost any responsible citizen working for gun freedom.

Civil dialog is becoming a necessity for this country

 

[ditcherman]

Does that mean that you can dig half a hole?

All I have to do to dig a whole hole is keep running my mouth.