Help me understand the distain for Donald Trump.

[flightsimmer]

I understand why the Democrats, Liberals and the Woke? generation dislike him so much, he was in their way and destroying their plans to turn this nation into a Socialist country, but why do some Republicans, Conservatives and would be Patriots feel that way?

Now I understand personalities can and do clash and maybe you don't care for his style or bravodo and he's outspoken and all kinds of things that annoy some people, but maybe you would annoy him and possible I would or do annoy you, although I can't imagine why, LOL.

The point is, for the sake of our country, why can't we unite behind a strong, proven leader that has done exactly what he promised to do? There is a very long list.

The Democrats fall into lock step when Pelosi says (heel), well except for Rep. Manchin, he does seem to have some integrity.
Many Republicans seem to have no fight in them and they are pushovers when it comes to standing up for the people their suppose to represent. Donald Trump has that fire that is needed to save or county from those who would destroy it.

I am completely convinced that the last Presidential election was stolen, I know, I know, but I have seen the proof.
At any rate we cannot let it happen again.

But in the meantime, why does Trump annoy you?
When you look in the mirror, do you annoy others? Do they just put up with you?

 

[ancjr]

Short answer is it is a manifestation of animosity toward God.

 

[flightsimmer]

Short answer is it is a manifestation of animosity toward God.

I can believe that.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

The man got to be famous for most people by being a slightly outlandish buffoon. I do not care for his public personna, but I have seen glimpses which lead me to suspect he may act quite a bit more normally when the cameras are off.

The key thing, to me, is the results. And it is hard to argue objectively with the way he ran the office.

 

[Indyhd]

Had he turned off Twitter and locked himself in the White House and let Pence be the lead on Covid he would have been re-elected. He just couldn't stay out from the front of the cameras.

 

[BE Mike]

Trump's enormous ego, which led to his antagonizing people with his seeming inability to control his mouth, was a field day for the liberal press. His never having been a politician was both his biggest strength and biggest weakness. People should be judged on their accomplishments, not their personalities, but political races are popularity contests. I know conservative people who didn't vote for him (they didn't vote for JB, either) because they personally can't stand Trump's personality and behavior.

 

[Pepi]

I think Trump was moving some of the more 'crooked' Republicans 'cheese'

 

[jake blue]

The short answer is he wasn't bought and paid for. I don't care if you're a democrat or republican or in between, if you want to play the game in DC you have to play by their rules and he didn't. Now I'm all for shaking up the status quo from time to time but I'm not sure the end result of Trump's term put us on a better heading. Not necessarily his fault but again he wasn't presidential material and many of us wouldn't have minded his antics if he'd just play the role a little better for the sake of optics in front of the rest of the world. I don't think his policies ever offended the GOP though, just that they didn't have their hooks in him before he ascended to the office. I've long said that's why Pence was VP - Trump didn't choose him, the party did or else they were going to challenge his ironclad nomination. They were hedging their bets that Trump would be impeached or assassinated and good old reliable party puppet Pence would have enjoyed party loyalty Trump was never afforded.

 

[ancjr]

Trump was neither infallible nor a saint. He was still God's man and there is/was a lot of animosity toward him for that reason.

 

[eldirector]

He may be rich, but he wasn't part of the political machine. The puppet masters had no strings for this one. So, the machine works against him and all followers simply repeat the mantra.

 

[flatlander]

If he would just STFU and let his policies speak for him, I could tolerate him. His ego won't allow that.

 

[AtTheMurph]

Trump is and was an athhole. People who deal with him (like my brother who is in commercial RE in NYC) all know it.

 

[jake blue]

Trump is and was an athhole. People who deal with him (like my brother who is in commercial RE in NYC) all know it.

But many presidents have been 'athholes' (?) Do you think Johnson was a saint? The man thought it was funny to whip it out in company! Yet he's the hero that gave liberals their socialist programs. Personality isn't necessarily a prerequisite for presidency.

 

[KLB]

The short answer is he wasn't bought and paid for. I don't care if you're a democrat or republican or in between, if you want to play the game in DC you have to play by their rules and he didn't. Now I'm all for shaking up the status quo from time to time but I'm not sure the end result of Trump's term put us on a better heading. Not necessarily his fault but again he wasn't presidential material and many of us wouldn't have minded his antics if he'd just play the role a little better for the sake of optics in front of the rest of the world. I don't think his policies ever offended the GOP though, just that they didn't have their hooks in him before he ascended to the office. I've long said that's why Pence was VP - Trump didn't choose him, the party did or else they were going to challenge his ironclad nomination. They were hedging their bets that Trump would be impeached or assassinated and good old reliable party puppet Pence would have enjoyed party loyalty Trump was never afforded.

Pence was chosen because he was willing to be the butt kisser Trump demanded of his people.

 

[jake blue]

Pence was chosen because he was willing to be the butt kisser Trump demanded of his people.

Yeah, he did that well right up until the 6th of January. Honestly Pence to me embodied most of the religious right, selling their souls for a president who hardly reached the bar of their moral convictions. But for so many it was less about Trump being their candidate as keeping Hillary Clinton out.

 

[Jaybird1980]

The biggest thing that annoys me about him is that he runs his mouth without thinking about what he says. Emotions or Ego?

Never thought he was the kind of person I would have a beer with, but my cousin was actually at a party with him and said he was a good guy, not a big loudmouth that's trying to get attention, so maybe I would have a beer with him after all.

 

[buckwacker]

Pence was the window dressing the campaign needed to cover the moral indiscretions that the religious right believed saddled Trump.

 

[Leadeye]

At the end of the day it was about money, which when you strip away the posturing is what it's always about. He was interfering in big computer money, big euro merchant banking money, big Chinese money, big Indian (dot) money, the list goes on. When the election came up, so was his number, because so much money in the world said he's one term. The tweets, bombast, and ego worship meant nothing.

2020 should have taught the American public just how much we really have to say about leadership in this country. Like a monstrous alligator in a swamp we've only seen it's eyes, in 2020 much more of the body came to the surface and it's scary. Great fortunes have been made by mining your wallet over the years and don't think it's going to stop easily, a president is just one mortal man in the eyes of that alligator.

Always follow the money, it's what the New World Order is about.

 

[BJHay]

My opinion? I think you underestimate how turned-off people are by his 'bravado' and overbearing nature. I try to judge a politician by their performance in office but regrettably many voters need to find the person 'likable'. And, due to horrendously lop sided news coverage, voters that didn't invest effort in searching never knew about the good decisions he made.

I never trusted Trump on 2A matters after he, illegally in my opinion, caused the AFT to reinterpret standing guidance on bump stocks causing them to become illegal. That cooled support for him among many gun owners. To be clear it wasn't that bump stocks were a big deal but rather he introduced a tactic that courts have (so far) supported and is now in the arsenal of future presidents that may be even more anti-gun.

I'm intrigued by your statement that you've seen 'proof' the election was stolen. I don't want to start an off-topic melee but I would be interested in looking at what you've found to be convincing. Perhaps you might send the most convincing couple of links to me by IM?

 

[DRob]

Lots of votes were actually anti-Trump as opposed to pro-Biden. Evidence of how ignorant many voters are!