Every gun is different. Shooting cardboard box (or whatever) is the only way to know.If you have a brass bead front sight how far above the bead do you want the center of the pattern?
I'm guessing maybe 4 inches.
I thinking you would want the target sitting on top of the bead with whatever lead is apropreate.
Enlighten me.
That's what I'm getting at, do most users prefer a 6:00 hold and how much or do they prefer dead on at say 30 yards?Every gun is different. Shooting cardboard box (or whatever) is the only way to know.
My old duck gun (mossberg) was a 6 o'clock hold. My new duck gun (franchi) is dead on.
Now this is what I was getting at.Usually a field gun is a 50/50 pattern at 40 yards , that is 1/2 above the bead, 1/2 below the bead when a proper cheek position on a proper height comb is used. A trap gun is usually biases 60/40 or 70/30 so you never loose sight of the target if you sing through.
The back "sight" is literally your eye ball and how far that is above the rib changes the Point of impact. The beads are only to verify that your head is on the right part of the stock before you look for the target. You never see it when shooting. I shot a properly fit gun in league for about 3 weeks and scored the same as always with no bead at all. Shotgun competitors always talk about stock fitting. That is a process where you are measured up and the gun is modified to fit your build. Even that gets technical because my dedicated Trap gun stock has been fit for the trap field and my dedicated skeet gun is fit for that use. My last fit was by Ken Rucker and he had to adjust the drop, the cast and the LOP, I had him add his bump buster recoil system, I love it but that work was $550., ten years ago.
For a guy with an off the rack gun that is the right length of pull for your build, cheek adjustment is a little goes a long way. We used to use a stick on product called mole skin that would raise the cheek thus raising the point of impact. Usually an 1/8 thick was good, and seldom needed more than a 1/4th inch to make the gun shoot "high" bias.
If your center of impact is 4 inches above your center of aim at 18 yards that is a slightly high shooting gun. Which I like. Most of the old timers like to pattern at 40 yards, but that is about choke testing also. If you are 4 inches high at 40 yards, that is almost flat shooting when you consider a 36 inch "hot" pattern.
If you have a brass bead front sight how far above the bead do you want the center of the pattern?
I'm guessing maybe 4 inches.
I thinking you would want the target sitting on top of the bead with whatever lead is apropreate.
Enlighten me.
I got to shoot skeet in Sarasota, Florida this last winter, it was a terrific range. Skeet, trap, still board, International clays and sporting clays, I think I got that right. Rifle, pistol and a police practice range.Usually a field gun is a 50/50 pattern at 40 yards , that is 1/2 above the bead, 1/2 below the bead when a proper cheek position on a proper height comb is used. A trap gun is usually biases 60/40 or 70/30 so you never loose sight of the target if you sing through.
The back "sight" is literally your eye ball and how far that is above the rib changes the Point of impact. The beads are only to verify that your head is on the right part of the stock before you look for the target. You never see it when shooting. I shot a properly fit gun in league for about 3 weeks and scored the same as always with no bead at all. Shotgun competitors always talk about stock fitting. That is a process where you are measured up and the gun is modified to fit your build. Even that gets technical because my dedicated Trap gun stock has been fit for the trap field and my dedicated skeet gun is fit for that use. My last fit was by Ken Rucker and he had to adjust the drop, the cast and the LOP, I had him add his bump buster recoil system, I love it but that work was $550., ten years ago.
For a guy with an off the rack gun that is the right length of pull for your build, cheek adjustment is a little goes a long way. We used to use a stick on product called mole skin that would raise the cheek thus raising the point of impact. Usually an 1/8 thick was good, and seldom needed more than a 1/4th inch to make the gun shoot "high" bias.
If your center of impact is 4 inches above your center of aim at 18 yards that is a slightly high shooting gun. Which I like. Most of the old timers like to pattern at 40 yards, but that is about choke testing also. If you are 4 inches high at 40 yards, that is almost flat shooting when you consider a 36 inch "hot" pattern.
That is almost like asking are Glocks as good as 1911's.Now this is what I was getting at.
Which do most serious shotgunners prefer and why?
I'm becoming interested in skeet shooting, only tried trap one time.
Sounds like a great place.I got to shoot skeet in Sarasota, Florida this last winter, it was a terrific range. Skeet, trap, still board, International clays and sporting clays, I think I got that right. Rifle, pistol and a police practice range.
Met some great guys to join in shooting skeet and had a great time. Looking forward to more of it.
I envy you - throwing your gun in the plane and heading to FL to shoot Skeet...no mask, no vaccine passport, no taking your shoes off or checking your gun! Only way to go.Now this is what I was getting at.
Currently my newest purchase is running roughly 4 inches high at 25 yards where as my double barrel is shooting dead on and covers half of the target.
Which do most serious shotgunners prefer and why?
I'm becoming interested in skeet shooting, only tried trap one time.
I shot with a Remington 3200…. but when I shot doubles I’d pull out my 60’s B grade 870. I could run straights with the 3200 but shot doubles better with the 870.