How much rearward energy does .308 transfer through a 10" AR500 1/2" ringer?

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  • philbert001

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    Long story short, My shootin buddy, who I share my private range with almost every weekend, came through with a 10" Ringer, of the 1/2", AR500 flavor. I wanted to make a minimalist mount, so one man could walk it out in the field 1-300 yards, and not come back too winded to spot for the shooter.

    V1.5 has a light, hardened steel tube frame, 3/8 carriage bolts, with the un-threaded 2" following the head bent about 80 degrees, through 5 links of log chain, then the other end bolted to the ringer with 1/2" hardened bolts.
    My concern is that .308, (Mostly 168gr), will deliver enough rearward energy to tip the rig over backwards.
    The feet are currently 26" apart, (Front to back), with the ringer hanging about 8" off the ground, with a slight downward angled face, about 1" forward of the frame center

    The intended design of the eye bolts having an inch for the chain to slide rearward and uphill, is to redirect energy downward, instead of rearward, keeping the feet in the dirt.
    If the carriage bolts fail, the game plan, as of now, is to buy 7/16" eye bolts, open them, insert chain, weld eye bolts closed, bolt to frame, then weld eye bolts to frame.

    If she wants to go over backwards, I plan to put wheelie-bars on it, to move the center of gravity forward, and instead of wheels, to let it roll, rearward angled spikes, to prevent rearward motion.

    :Safety note: I have one mile of field, a 17' elevated platform to shoot from, and permission from the field owners for targets and varmints. (Hopefully deer permission will soon follow!)

    Here's some pics. What says INGO? Will she hold?

    :ETA: YUP! THAT'S AN OLD PUSHMOWER HANDLE!

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    philbert001

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    I put this in long guns, more because it has to do with long gun ballistics than targets. Didn't want to put it in Bobcat's subforum, as it's not their steel, and I won't ask them about someone else's product! (Although, they are welcome to comment, if they'd like! :):)
     

    DaKruiser

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    I think it will hold up fine, my only suggestion would be replace the chain with pieces of tire, seat belt, or mule tape, after the chain breaks.

    I've found that chain and cable usually only take one hit to be cut/broken, where the tire, seat belt, mule tape will take several hits before they break.
     

    philbert001

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    I think it will hold up fine, my only suggestion would be replace the chain with pieces of tire, seat belt, or mule tape, after the chain breaks.

    I've found that chain and cable usually only take one hit to be cut/broken, where the tire, seat belt, mule tape will take several hits before they break.
    Lord knows I've got some tires laying around! Good to know! V2.0, here we come!
    Do you use pieces of sidewall, or chunks of tread, cut through the belts?
     

    TheEngineer

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    One suggestion, just as extra "no tippage" insurance...I would weld a piece of the rebar you used on the sides across the front so that it is touching the ground (adjust the height depending on if you are sticking the legs into the ground some). Then take some round bar (3/16" or so) and bend in into a U shape with around 12" legs...make a couple of these to use as "ground staples" and drive them into the ground, points towards the target, at around a 45deg angle
     

    philbert001

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    One suggestion, just as extra "no tippage" insurance...I would weld a piece of the rebar you used on the sides across the front so that it is touching the ground (adjust the height depending on if you are sticking the legs into the ground some). Then take some round bar (3/16" or so) and bend in into a U shape with around 12" legs...make a couple of these to use as "ground staples" and drive them into the ground, points towards the target, at around a 45deg angle
    I'm liking that idea! I imagine even plain old tent stakes, at the right angle would keep the nose down!
     
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