How not to inspire confidence in a would-be buyer

[level0]

...so offshooting from my other active thread (https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/long-guns/394739-advice-tactical-shotguns-home-defense.html), continuing research on the Linberta line of shotguns, I decided to email the company and ask them a few questions about other makes/models they may have and mag tube extension suggestions for some of their other models.

First I tried info@linberta.com, which is an email address purported to be active and monitored. BZZZ! Bounced.

Then I googled that address, and got info@saracgroup.com, which supposedly belongs to the exclusive USA distributor of Linberta firearms. So I emailed them the same questions, and...BZZZ! Bounced.

Hmm. So, then I googled the phone number emblazoned on the linberta.com web page, and got Emperor Firearms - so I sent the same email to their sales@emperorfirearms.com address, and...BZZZ! Bounced.

A quick read of the saracgroup.com homepage is good for a small chuckle. I guess anyone can put up a website, and this must be proof.

Yes, I know Bud's is a dealer and I can find them easily enough, but Bud's walks away counting my money as soon as I sign for the transfer. And no, I did not call the phone number I found.

End result...my buddy has a Linberta shotgun and it shoots well and seems to shoot whatever he feeds it. But, if I can't find them online easily and intuitively then they are off my list.

 

[357 Terms]

That phone number you googled, call it.

I prefer talking to a person anyway.

 

[level0]

Not calling. Phones are great, and I prefer to call in most situations for anything, but I'm out here doing basic due diligence and missing on the basics. Fail.

 

[JettaKnight]

Yeah... that webpage took five minutes to put together....


Nope - run away.

 

[seedubs1]

Never heard of Linberta. There's plenty of known good companies. Why not buy from a known GTG company???

 

[ChootEm]

Never heard of Linberta. There's plenty of known good companies. Why not buy from a known GTG company???

Plus one on the above. I agree that they are a decent looking firearm but in my mind the $50-$100 you may save it far out weighed by what you are giving up in reputation, proven reliability, and accessory options?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Yep. Walk away. In the 21st century there is no excuse for zero web presence. I found some nice B-37 targets at the local surplus store. insanely overpriced, but I like them. I especially like that they appear to ship flat, not rolled. So I googled the name of the company that printed them. Its a printing shop in Dayton, OH. Nothing but a phone number. No web presence, nothing.

I ended up buying a case of another brand from Midway. I really didnt feel like dicking around with some old codger or backwards company who would also probably make me mail them a check. No thanks.

 

[Thor]

Well...actually there are a lot of reasons to have no web presence. Just not if you want to sell on the web. Almost all of my media is antisocial.

 

[JettaKnight]

Well...actually there are a lot of reasons to have no web presence. Just not if you want to sell on the web. Almost all of my media is antisocial.

Name me one successful firearm or or modest sized firearm accessory manufacturer without a web presence.

 

[level0]

Never heard of Linberta. There's plenty of known good companies. Why not buy from a known GTG company???

I'm buying nothing at this point - this is strictly my 'research and due diligence' phase. I'm looking at Mossberg, Weatherby, and some others. I looked at Linberta because I've shot one before and it was/is a good shooter, but their lack of anything substantial support-wise has put me off.

 

[JettaKnight]

We need to keep a low profile on this, or the rep will join INGO to promote Linberta.

 

[level0]

Oh I ended up there when looking for an email address, in fact that's where I got the first email address in the OP...that clearly was a fail! If "Mark" shows up here, he gots some splainin to do.

 

[seedubs1]

Just get a Mossberg 500, 590, or 930 or Remington 1100 or 870 and be done with it.

 

[Thor]

Name me one successful firearm or or modest sized firearm accessory manufacturer without a web presence.

That's why I said, Just not if you want to sell on the web.

 

[Cameramonkey]

That's why I said, Just not if you want to sell on the web.

Not necessarily. Glock doesnt sell online. None of the gun manufacturers do. Yet they have every inch of their product covered with online info. I dont think I can buy Under Armor clothing from them direct. But I sure can see what they make.

The consumer research process has moved online. Thats where info is gleaned for purchase whether it is bought online or not. The only time you dont need a web presence is if you dont want to sell beyond your neighborhood or city. Even then you are gonna have your lunch eaten by out of town-ers who do choose to setup a web presence.

Case in point; Steven R Jenkins. If I google "police uniform supply indianapolis" and they dont have a website, I might not know they exist and end up buying via a Google AdWords ad from Galls or even some other in town business.

 

[JettaKnight]

Can't rep you Camermonkey, but thanks for making my point.

I can't get Hank's delicious smoked brisket on the web, but he's got a website. And a far better site than Lamberta.

 

[BugI02]

Not calling. Phones are great, and I prefer to call in most situations for anything, but I'm out here doing basic due diligence and missing on the basics. Fail.

I prefer email because it leaves a record you can refer back to and/or send copies of to peeps who forget what they told you last time. I usually wont use a company that wont email.

 

[BugI02]

Yep. Walk away. In the 21st century there is no excuse for zero web presence. I found some nice B-37 targets at the local surplus store. insanely overpriced, but I like them. I especially like that they appear to ship flat, not rolled. So I googled the name of the company that printed them. Its a printing shop in Dayton, OH. Nothing but a phone number. No web presence, nothing.

I ended up buying a case of another brand from Midway. I really didnt feel like dicking around with some old codger or backwards company who would also probably make me mail them a check. No thanks.

Checks? They still have those?

 

[Thor]

Checks? They still have those?

Not the last time I checked, let me go check with my wife, she's a Czech after all.

 

[BugI02]

If no more checks than do we have a surplus of balances?