Hutaree Just Got Bail

[smoking357]

Seems the government's case of criminalizing speech and anti-government beliefs is falling apart.

Hutaree Militia Can Go Free on Bond, Judge Rules - CBS News

Most likely, this was all just a ruse to scare us all into not opposing the government.

"Discussions about killing local law enforcement officers — and even discussions about killing members of the judicial branch of government — do not translate to conspiring to overthrow, or levy way against, the United States government," the judge said Monday.

 

[Cat-Herder]

yeah, this reeks of an FBI setup. we're talking some fairly easy to manipulate individuals here.

 

[irishfan]

I haven't seen anything they have done that was illegal as of yet...anybody else? If they are found innocent then I want some FBI agents in the can to teach a long needed lesson to federal agents and their lawless actions.

 

[E5RANGER375]

they got what they wanted. news headlines to instill false fear and falsely justify their illegal political actions and future ones.. also if you think about it, they forced another win for them ...... think of all the chatter they picked up over this from groups that they wouldnt have ever known about otherwise. so now they have new targets to pursue. they knew exactly what they were doing, and if anyone thinks they in any way care about your rights then you havent looked at the history of their organization since its inception

 

[Son of Liberty]

they got what they wanted. news headlines to instill false fear and falsely justify their illegal political actions and future ones.. also if you think about it, they forced another win for them ...... think of all the chatter they picked up over this from groups that they wouldnt have ever known about otherwise. so now they have new targets to pursue. they knew exactly what they were doing, and if anyone thinks they in any way care about your rights then you havent looked at the history of their organization since its inception

Something we agree on E, they (FBI) definitely are not in th "right" protecting business. That goes for most of LE, in the end most of them seem to have the attitude of the ends justify the means. After all the constitution is just a piece of paper, and they are above it.

 

[96firephoenix]

...
Most likely, this was all just a ruse to scare us all into not opposing the government.

...

what do you mean "Most Likely?"

 

[SavageEagle]

they got what they wanted. news headlines to instill false fear and falsely justify their illegal political actions and future ones.. also if you think about it, they forced another win for them ...... think of all the chatter they picked up over this from groups that they wouldnt have ever known about otherwise. so now they have new targets to pursue. they knew exactly what they were doing, and if anyone thinks they in any way care about your rights then you havent looked at the history of their organization since its inception

I have to agree, I think they did this all in hopes of bringing out the crazies or finding someone who IS serious about causing revolt. Better keep an eye on what happens in the next 6 months before the elections. Something big is surely gonna happen.

 

[BloodEclipse]

While Roberts ruled only whether to keep the eight men and one woman in jail until trial, her decision — reached after nearly 10 hours of hearings and detailed in 36 pages — offers an early look at her thoughts on the strength of the government's case.


"The feds are in big trouble," said Lloyd Meyer of Chicago, a former terrorism prosecutor who won decades-long prison sentences against violent militia members in western and northern Michigan. "If they can't persuade the judge by clear and convincing evidence that the defendants are dangerous, how can they convince 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt? Her ruling looks like the feds are prosecuting U.S. citizens for jibber-jabber."

"This so-called speech — never delivered outside the van — speaks of reclaiming America, not overthrowing the United States government," Roberts said.

Maybe they should start focusing on Muslim extremists again.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Maybe they should start focusing on Muslim extremists again.

what about alphabet extremists?

 

[BloodEclipse]

what about alphabet extremists?

Well that is what we are here for my friend.

 

[WHAT HAPPENED]

This was an FBI set up, Alex Jones talked to the leader of the militia about a year ago and told him to watch out for the FBI in your militia....

AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!!!!

FBI SET UP ALL OVER IT!!!!

 

[BloodEclipse]

This was an FBI set up, Alex Jones talked to the leader of the militia about a year ago and told him to watch out for the FBI in your militia....

AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!!!!

FBI SET UP ALL OVER IT!!!!

I hope this woke up other militias.
They should all play the "Who amongst us is the FBI agent" game.

 

[SavageEagle]

I hope this woke up other militias.
They should all play the "Who amongst us is the FBI agent" game.

I say we start with you. Are you the FBI? I'm not the FBI. I'm CIA.

 

[turnandshoot4]

Well then SE, you shouldn't be operating here.

 

[BloodEclipse]

I say we start with you. Are you the FBI? I'm not the FBI. I'm CIA.

I'm not FBI.

I'm not CIA.

I'm not ATF, BATF, BATFE.

I'm not IRS.

I'm not ICE.

I'm not DOT.

I'm not NSA.

I'm sure that leaves many others.

 

[SavageEagle]

I'm not FBI.

I'm not CIA.

I'm not ATF, BATF, BATFE.

I'm not IRS.

I'm not ICE.

I'm not DOT.

I'm not NSA.

I'm sure that leaves many others.

I used to have a running joke with my friends that I ran crack for the CIA.

But in all seriousness, this statement covers it all.

I'm not affiliated, working with, a part of, or have any sort of regular contact with any law enforcement agency of any kind.

Ok, I lied. The only regular contact I have with LE is on this website.

 

[E5RANGER375]

see the thing is, it dont matter if youve known everyone you go to dinner with for life or not. them guys will turn your mother against you. they dont need to waste an undercover agent, they just make people feel all warm and patriotic and believe it or not, it works. but if it dont then they will offer you a cell for something you probly didnt do, and then after that most people are ready to sell out their sister.
informants cost a lot less than agents, and also they dont give a crap if an informant is killed, thats just an "oops thanks for tryin"

 

[JusAdSumBellum]

Maybe they should start focusing on Muslim extremists again.

Maybe someone is just hard up for a mean game of scrabble. You think those little squares are easy to use with those mits?

 

[JusAdSumBellum]

see the thing is, it dont matter if youve known everyone you go to dinner with for life or not. them guys will turn your mother against you. they dont need to waste an undercover agent, they just make people feel all warm and patriotic and believe it or not, it works. but if it dont then they will offer you a cell for something you probly didnt do, and then after that most people are ready to sell out their sister.
informants cost a lot less than agents, and also they dont give a crap if an informant is killed, thats just an "oops thanks for tryin"

'Watch him folks, 'cause he's a thoroughly dangerous man
Well, you may not know it, but this man's a spy
He's an undercover agent for the FBI
And he's been sent down here to infiltrate the Ku Klux Klan'...

'Would you believe this man has gone as far
As tearin' Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars
And he voted for George McGovern for President'

 

[smoking357]

I hope this woke up other militias.
They should all play the "Who amongst us is the FBI agent" game.

Exactly. Or local cop. Or fusion center agent. Or SPLC plant. Or ADL plant.

etc.