I need some help identifying this muzzle loading shot gun?

[handgun]

I did not take these pictures AND Yes i did give my friend what for for looking down the barrel of a black powder muzzle loader/ shot gun..

the barrels are 20mm Smooth bore.. I am at a loss maybe someone might know!!! i think he also stated that the barrels were 46 inches or 47 inches long..somewhere in that ball park in length


Thanks for looking!

 

[Mgderf]

Don't know the maker, but I'll give a $100 bill for it.

 

[handgun]

Don't know the maker, but I'll give a $100 bill for it.

I will let him know, I don't think he is looking to sell honestly.

he just wants to know more about it.. And honestly I don't know anything about this gun

 

[williamnewman1]

man i have been staring at this one, is it just me or is that one word say "REISSUE" ?

 

[darend505]

man i have been staring at this one, is it just me or is that one word say "REISSUE" ?

I would agree!

 

[handgun]

man i have been staring at this one, is it just me or is that one word say "REISSUE" ?

I would agree!

Yes I am more than certain that is what it says. I went over to his house to take a look.. And i came to the same conclusion.

I am really thrown off by this. I am not an expert on Black powder/muzzle loaders..

this may not even be a shot gun for its age. But I don't know much about pre 1900 guns.

It looks like an early shot gun to me.. But its hard telling..

i am thrown off what the 218 or 318 is serial number?

I keep staring at the photos.. and i looked long and hard at the gun today with an optical loop.. I couldn't find any other markings. I can't say the gun is in great shape for its age, but all things considered i have seen much worse guns that are just a few years old.

 

[williamnewman1]

any luck with that second word ..... i saying " PA--MECH-"
i know the picture is good but i just can't get much more from a pic, if you have a better idea of that second word would be helpful

 

[Kaardomos]

any luck with that second word ..... i saying " PA--MECH-"

To me it looks like "P---Mich" as in, Michigan, perhaps.

I took the liberty of blowing it up and adjusting the contrast to make it a little easier to read.

DSCN0157 by Steven Berry, on Flickr

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So much stuff floating around after the Civil War that it could have been cobbled together from pieces from all over the country.

Have you contacted anyone at the NMLRA?

National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association

Maybe Dixie can help?

Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies.

This one was built just after the Civil War in Owen County, Indiana and hangs over my library:



Dig the hand checkering. My family always had gunsmithing skills.

 

[Cerberus]

Old shotguns are probably one of the least documented areas of firearms history. They literally came in by the boat loads from all over Europe and we made a huge number here as well. Most were not of high enough quality to stand the test of time and went into the trash heap of history.

There are many possibilities what this old scattergun could be, but I would guess it was in some state's stores (Michigan) to be issued out for civil purposes ie rioting or crime wave. It's not out of the question that it could have been brought to a military muster early in the Civil War and gotten turned in when martial arms became available.

Don't forget that the shotgun was in most instances the most common gun in most areas of this country back then.

 

[SSGSAD]

man i have been staring at this one, is it just me or is that one word say "REISSUE" ?

"COULD BE" .....