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  • flightsimmer

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    "You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."
    Their lying to us.
     

    Jack1861

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    No doubt a tyrannical statist like Lincoln would recognize Barry and his henchmen for what they are....kind of like looking in a mirror.
     

    Jludo

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    Abraham Lincoln once said 'if you are a racist I will attack you with the north' and those are the principles I carry with me.
    -Michael Scott
     

    RobertaX

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    Abraham Lincoln once said 'if you are a racist I will attack you with the north' and those are the principles I carry with me.
    -Michael Scott

    Lincoln held some seriously racist views. He appears to have found breakaway States a lot more horrible than slavery, too. (Someone else can cite quotes.)

    Most slave-holding countries managed to end the practice without fighting a war over it; in the U. S. Civil War, there were a lot of other issues involved. "Ending slavery" was pretty much the only unalloyed good to come from that war, so it's no wonder history has focused on it and not on things like the growth in Federal power at the expense of the States.
     

    ViperJock

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    Abraham Lincoln once said 'if you are a racist I will attack you with the north' and those are the principles I carry with me.
    -Michael Scott

    Actually,it was like,"If you try to leave the union by taking over our military positions in the south, we will prevent you from leaving." The "racism" issue was simply the reason behind the reason the south was leaving. Also, calling slavery "racism" is probably an understatement, don't you think?

    Lincoln did what he had to do to keep this country together. He wasn't perfect as some 21st century quarterbacks on INGO are but thats life. I guess those who think Lincoln should have left the south alone must think that life would have somehow been better if he had. I highly doubt it would have been better for anyone for very long, let alone the slaves.
     

    nickman54

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    Wait

    I just watched Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer, are you guys telling me that is fake? Damnit, I thought all southerners were evil vampires.
     

    HoughMade

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    I'll try to keep this all in mind when I build my time machine and go back in time to overlay 2013 sentiments on the election of 1864 as I cast my vote.
     

    Jack1861

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    Meh....
    Maybe keep it in mind as you contemplate how media, public schools, progressives and others have taken one of the most tyrannical bastards to ever inflict the republic and painted him as some sort of saint hero....then consider what else they may be twisting today.

    Lincoln is frequently used as an excuse /precedent for the ever expanding state.
     

    BigBoxaJunk

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    Lincoln also said:

    If I could preserve the union without freeing any slaves, I would it. If I could preserve the union by freeing some slaves, but not others, I would do that also.
     
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