Illinois Decides To Go All In On Gun Ban

[bft131]

I just put out the word like Paul Revere to my poor friends still stuck in that s'hole state..

 

[Colt556]

Yikes! If that passes it looks like the upcoming ****storm might start there.

 

[canav844]

Just received an alert from the gun owners to our west an it looks like one of their senators has gone all in on banning and confiscation. Those poor bastards are getting it hard in the new year, if this is true.

ISRA Urgent Alert - Illinois Near Total Gun Ban January 2nd!

Is there a link or source with the actual text of the proposed legislation, or a link to the bill on the IL legislature's website?

Aren't the gun banners in Illinois under a court order to allow concealed carry withing a certain time period? Did I just dream this? I am certain I read where a federal court ruled against the state and City of Chicago. Someone please correct me if i'm wrong (like I have to ask on )

In light of McDonald v. Chicago, and Moore v. Madigan, this idiocy has a snowball's chance in hell of actually being implemented.

Since when has contempt of federal court or law stopped IL from doing something?

 

[chris46131]

In my admittedly simplistic view, this is treason.

Being simplistic doesn't make it incorrect.

 

[mrjarrell]

Is there a link or source with the actual text of the proposed legislation, or a link to the bill on the IL legislature's website?

Not yet. All I got was the alert from ISRA. I imagine the bill will surface in the next day or two when they start their lame duck session. When it's posted will depend on how fast they actually do things in IL.

 

[spec4]

Can't find a link but if you go to Illinois Carry - A Website Dedicated To Advancing Conceal Carry For Illinois you can read all about it. Maybe Obama told his Chicago buddies to try this in Illinois and see how it flies before going nationwide.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Is there a link or source with the actual text of the proposed legislation, or a link to the bill on the IL legislature's website?




Since when has contempt of federal court or law stopped IL from doing something?

I'm with you, this "bill" seems a stretch, even for Illinois. I'll wait until I see the actual text before I start tinfoiling.

 

[bft131]

Can't find a link but if you go to Illinois Carry - A Website Dedicated To Advancing Conceal Carry For Illinois you can read all about it. Maybe Obama told his Chicago buddies to try this in Illinois and see how it flies before going nationwide.

Sad to say I believe this would happen with that Chicago thug...

 

[SSGSAD]

Aren't the gun banners in Illinois under a court order to allow concealed carry withing a certain time period? Did I just dream this? I am certain I read where a federal court ruled against the state and City of Chicago. Someone please correct me if i'm wrong (like I have to ask on )

THIS, is what I was thinking..... I thought that Il. were just told, that gun bans, are UN Constitutional, and they are going to have 180 days, to pass a RTC bill ?????

 

[Kutnupe14]

Being simplistic doesn't make it incorrect.

Explain how proposing a bill, which has to go through the legislative system, is treason? Are we to start locking up people that introduce bills that are in our opinion unconstitutional, and citing treason as the reasonings?
That's fascism, pure and simple. The founders installed a system that was designed to prevent the passing of such laws.

Let's not start throwing around words incorrectly, as it diminishes actual treasonous acts.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Does this jack-wad really think all the criminals, gang-bangers and others who do not believe in the rule of law will turn their firearms in?

It never fails to amaze me how stupid politicians can be. There must be a rule in states like Illinois that to run for office, you must have no brains, and must have a scan showing you don't.

Hello Cullerton, didn't you take an oath of office, you know, the one that makes you say you will uphold the Constitution of The United States of America? That pesky document with the line about "shall not be infringed"?

The problem is that they are not stupid but rather evil. In fact, they need for the criminals to refuse to turn in their weapons because they need a bogeyman to make the sheep cling to the statists without questioning the things they do. It is about control of the sheep. Crime is completely irrelevant to them. As for the oath of office, I believe they use custom made toilet paper with the Constitution printed on it.

In my admittedly simplistic view, this is treason.

Simplistic? You are simply seeing a plain truth in a plain way.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Explain how proposing a bill, which has to go through the legislative system, is treason? Are we to start locking up people that introduce bills that are in our opinion unconstitutional, and citing treason as the reasonings?
That's fascism, pure and simple. The founders installed a system that was designed to prevent the passing of such laws.

Let's not start throwing around words incorrectly, as it diminishes actual treasonous acts.

Yes, and the Second Amendment is the backstop on that system, which is why those with treasonous intent constantly attack it.

 

[drillsgt]

It's just some democrats pipe dream.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It's just some democrats pipe dream.

Unfortunately, most of the problem laws on the books now were some democrat's pipe dream the day before being made law.

 

[drillsgt]

Unfortunately, most of the problem laws on the books now were some democrat's pipe dream the day before being made law.

I dont think even IL would go for something like this though.

 

[uncle griz]

He needs to be impeached for not upholding the Constitution he took an oath on

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yes, and the Second Amendment is the backstop on that system, which is why those with treasonous intent constantly attack it.

Treason, is a crime in which death is justified, is it not? Do you believe that proposing an unconstitutional bill reaches the level in which capital punishment, for treason against the state, is valid in such instances?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Treason, is a crime in which death is justified, is it not? Do you believe that proposing an unconstitutional bill reaches the level in which capital punishment, for treason against the state, is valid in such instances?

As with all offenses, there are both aggravating and mitigating circumstances, but as rule, yes I do believe that introduction of a bill which clearly serves to undermine the constitution warrants such a response. Being slack on this type of thing for roughly a century now is why we are in the deplorable state that we are in.

 

[Kutnupe14]

As with all offenses, there are both aggravating and mitigating circumstances, but as rule, yes I do believe that introduction of a bill which clearly serves to undermine the constitution warrants such a response. Being slack on this type of thing for roughly a century now is why we are in the deplorable state that we are in.

And If a private person chooses to write their congressman and ask that a "unconstitutional" law be passed, prompting the legislator to act, that would also be a treasonous act, worthy of death, correct?

Or how about simply talking about "how" a AWB should be passed for the benefit of the nation, although recognizing that it is "unconstitutional?" Is that treason, as well?

You are creating a very slippery slope, and I'm 100% confident that the founders would have found that your beliefs run contrary to freedom loving peoples.

 

[ditto]

Sigh...and things actually looked promising for a minute there with the CCW ban overturn. I really hope this doesn't come to pass, for the sake of my loved ones that live in IL.