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  • 17 squirrel

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    think the action would hold up to the 450 Alaskan round?

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    With what I remember in the Marlin you would have to keep the loads reasonable tame shooting the Alaskan round. The Marlin in 45-70 is limited to about 28,000 ? psi with that action. You can juice the Alaskan up to about 40,000 if I remember right. And in a Lever that would be like your Browning or Win 71 or better yet one of the modern Japanese Brownings or Winchester levers that will handle 40,000 psi. Or one of the Japanese Bro or Win Highwalls..
    .It's a awesome cartridge.. I keep thinking about having one of my Browning 1886's reamed out to 45-90...
     

    17 squirrel

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    Check out the 1895 Winchester, one of my favorites, and endorsed by no less than TR.

    I have a few of the Brownings, but you have to remember, it was designed for a rimless case, like 30-40...30-06 ... The one I shoot is in 30-40 and its fun to shoot, people look and wonder how does that long ass case fire in that rifle.
    You gotta just love levers..
     

    Gluemanz28

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    I have the Henry Big Boy in the .357 hexagon barrel version. That is one of my favorite guns to shoot.

    They have just introduced the .357 and 44 in a blued version, but doesn't have the heavy hexagon barrel. they are geared more towards hunting.
     

    451_Detonics

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    Anything that shoots the 45/70 is a hoot, these 458 bore rifles always put a smile on my face. In my 127 year old Marlin 1881 I am loading 13 grains of Trail Boss under a 350 grain Laser Cast bullet for about 1150 fps and 16,000 CUP. Very mild to shoot and in my Marlin very accurate. My 450 Alaskan is in a newer Japanese Browning 71, I have run it near max in the past but stay at about 80% max loads these days. When I was loading heavy the rifle got the nickname "Boomer" up at the Earnest Hemingway Memorial Shoot due to the loud and deep boom than would roll out to a distant treeline and echo back. If you reload there have been several threads about either cutting back 45/70 brass or 45/60 brass back to 1.8 inches for a Indiana deer legal cartridge for lever guns.
     

    17 squirrel

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    The big boys are definitely fun, I enjoy bringing a BPCR Browning 1885 in 45-90 to the local club sometimes, most will shoot the one I have in 45-70 but tend to slink away when I take the Creedmore out of the trunk. Lol
    It's fun when someone asks to shoot one and I load up with a 520 grainer. Generally they don't ask to shoot them again..

    That steel butt plate on the 1886 Brownings leaves them rubbing there shoulder when they walk away..
     

    451_Detonics

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    The big boys are definitely fun, I enjoy bringing a BPCR Browning 1885 in 45-90 to the local club sometimes, most will shoot the one I have in 45-70 but tend to slink away when I take the Creedmore out of the trunk. Lol
    It's fun when someone asks to shoot one and I load up with a 520 grainer. Generally they don't ask to shoot them again..

    That steel butt plate on the 1886 Brownings leaves them rubbing there shoulder when they walk away..

    A friend of mine had a double rifle made from a Merkel shotgun in 45/120, what a rifle that was...
     

    Tombs

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    I would absolutely adore the new henry rifles if it wasn't for the tube loading and the slick buttplate.

    I couldn't find a way to operate the lever without the rifle slipping off my shoulder, which disappointed me. As janky as the marlins are, my 1895 works well for me and doesn't provide me with anything to complain about.
     

    1911ly

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    I would absolutely adore the new henry rifles if it wasn't for the tube loading and the slick buttplate.

    I couldn't find a way to operate the lever without the rifle slipping off my shoulder, which disappointed me. As janky as the marlins are, my 1895 works well for me and doesn't provide me with anything to complain about.

    The 45-70 does not have a steel butt plate. It has a recoil pad. The loading tube, well... it a Henry thing.
     

    Que

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    The 45-70 does not have a steel butt plate. It has a recoil pad. The loading tube, well... it a Henry thing.


    I just looked at one and it does have the steel butt plate. I think the blued version has the regular recoil pad.
     

    451_Detonics

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    The lever guns...top to bottom 1881 in 45/70, Browning 71 in 450 Alaskan, Marlin 1894 in 44 Mag, Marlin Golden 39A in 22, not pictured is a Marlin Levermatic in 22 Mag.

    Lever guns whether in rifle or pistol calibers are some of the most nostalgic and fun guns there are to shoot. In the larger rifle calibers there is joy to be fond in the deep satisfying boom that echos from backstop and woods. They are our heritage and a uniquely American gun. Everyone should own at least one and in as large a caliber as possible.

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    RustyHornet

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    I love my Henry .22, very fun to shoot shorts out of because it's almost silent. I'd love to add a larger caliber lever someday, not sure what would be best for me. I guess .357 would make sense to go with my gp100.
     

    1911ly

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    I just looked at one and it does have the steel butt plate. I think the blued version has the regular recoil pad.

    Was the one you looked at brass or steell? The brass is a new version. Maybe it has a solid butt plate like the Big Boy? My 45-70 is one of the early ones. It has a recoil pad.
     

    Hoosier8

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    Love the lever actions. Have two Rossi's, a 44 mag 24" octagonal barrel, a Rossi 44 mag Trapper, a Marlin 30-30, a Winchester 44 mag Trapper, a Winchester 9422 .22 cal Trapper, a Marlin Golden 39A in 22, and traded a 1970 spotless Marlin 44 Mag for a guitar. I made out on the guitar because I paid so little for the Marlin at Cabelas.

    Both Rossi's have impressive bluing and the 24" has a very fine wood stock. The Trapper has a much more grainy stock that does not look as good but a fun gun.

    No Henri's at this time. The only 45-70 I have is an old Springfield Trapdoor that cannot shoot modern cartridges.
     

    Que

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    Was the one you looked at brass or steell? The brass is a new version. Maybe it has a solid butt plate like the Big Boy? My 45-70 is one of the early ones. It has a recoil pad.

    Yeah, it's the brass one. I would want to have that replaced, but I haven't found a match. I will not buy the brass one if that plate is the only option.
     

    1911ly

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    Yeah, it's the brass one. I would want to have that replaced, but I haven't found a match. I will not buy the brass one if that plate is the only option.

    A brass butt plate on the 45-70 would be a butt kicker on your shoulder if you didn't get it pulled in tight. That's for sure!

    If the 45-70 brass butt plate is like the 44mag it wraps over the top of the stock. So a recoil pad that screws the back on might look funny. TBH, If this is a shooter I'd go with the steel. I love the looks of the brass but it shows figure prints every time I handle it.
     
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