IN man convicted for shooting burglar

[g00n24]

Thanks Mods for fixing title.
[Video] Indiana Man Convicted of Felony After Shooting Intruder


Sounds like he shot him when he was running away. Does your garage count as part of your curtilage? Would it make a difference with a detached garage?

 

[printcraft]

Too bad I wasn't on the jury....... he would have walked.

Criminals need to stop committing crimes. I know it's a difficult concept to comprehend.
Of all the times I've not stolen something from someone I've never been shot at for being a criminal. Weird days.

 

[rjh78]

We dont have all the facts, but I'm reading the guy was shot in the back while running away from attempting a property crime in a detached building. That's not grounds for lethal force.

 

[printcraft]

.... Criminals need to stop committing crimes. I know it's a difficult concept to comprehend. ........

I hear ya brother.

So what you are laying down is...... stop committing crimes and my risk of getting shot dramatically decreases?

What are you?! Some kind of genius?!

 

[88GT]

We dont have all the facts, but I'm reading the guy was shot in the back while running away from attempting a property crime in a detached building. That's not grounds for lethal force.

Says the state.

In my world, he'd get a "not guilty."

 

[TTravis]

I say let's change the law so that you can shoot someone in the back, or any other way, if they try to break into your property. If I were on the jury .... Use to be that you could shoot a man for stealing your horse. Those were the good days.

 

[g00n24]

I hear ya brother.

So what you are laying down is...... stop committing crimes and my risk of getting shot dramatically decreases?

What are you?! Some kind of genius?!

I don't know...I'm not sure your theory can hold water.

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

Says the state.

In my world, he'd get a "not guilty."

Sure, but if you were to make the same choices he made you would probably face the same consequences. Just because we don't like the way the rules are written doesn't mean we get to ignore them. We need to work to change them if they need changed. In this case, the intruder was shot in the back. Last time I checked that tends to seal the deal in IN.

 

[mrjarrell]

If a cop can do it, and not be prosecuted, then anyone else should be able to as well.

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

If a cop can do it, and not be prosecuted, then anyone else should be able to as well.

This is indicative of a much larger problem that also needs addressed.


Personally, I'm not looking forward to the idea of having to use my firearm in self defense. Am I prepared mentally to do so if I need to? Yes. That doesn't mean I'm looking for every opportunity that I can find. An individual who is running away from the situation is no longer a threat to my life or the lives of my loved ones. At that point I have other things to worry about.

 

[SteveM4A1]

This is indicative of a much larger problem that also needs addressed.


Personally, I'm not looking forward to the idea of having to use my firearm in self defense. Am I prepared mentally to do so if I need to? Yes. That doesn't mean I'm looking for every opportunity that I can find. An individual who is running away from the situation is no longer a threat to my life or the lives of my loved ones. At that point I have other things to worry about.

How do you know they aren't running away to get a weapon?

 

[Thor]

Hmmm, jury quickly returned a verdict. I wonder what the rest of the story is because in my world he'd have walked. Of course, almost no one else lives in my world.

 

[Thor]

How do you know they aren't running away to get a weapon?

Always a valid question in my mind. Probably the first I'd think of as they 'repositioned for another attack'.

 

[dudley0]

Hmmm, jury quickly returned a verdict. I wonder what the rest of the story is because in my world he'd have walked. Of course, almost no one else lives in my world.

I don't know you but I live in your world brother.

 

[88GT]

Sure, but if you were to make the same choices he made you would probably face the same consequences.

I don't make those choices. But I would expect to run afoul of a righteously angry homeowner and risk my life if I did. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Just because we don't like the way the rules are written doesn't mean we get to ignore them.

Jury. Nullification.

We need to work to change them if they need changed. In this case, the intruder was shot in the back. Last time I checked that tends to seal the deal in IN.

Not if I'm one the jury.

 

[HoughMade]

Not enough information for me to have an opinion about whether they got it right or not.


All we know is that the jury must not have thought he was in reasonable fear for his life.

If his attorney actually said:

You have to stop somewhere,” she said. “People are tired of having their stuff taken.

I’m not so sure that helped.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

In my world, he'd get a "not guilty."

This ^ , is the only simple concept that needs to be universally understood . Not guilty here as well .

 

[printcraft]

The homeowner would not have been in that circumstance but for the intruder placing him there.

The homeowner by virtue of having possessions does not make the thief a thief.

The homeowner bears absolutely no culpability in this case.

 

[88GT]

The homeowner would not have been in that circumstance but for the intruder placing him there.

The homeowner by virtue of having possessions does not make the thief a thief.

The homeowner bears absolutely no culpability in this case.

And no amount of statutory gymnastics changes that fact.

 

[Thor]

I don't know you but I live in your world brother.

Welcome! First drinks on me.