IN Youth Deer Hunt Sept 25 & 26

[USMC_0311]

I am taking my son this weekend and try to get his first deer. Last year we went with my bother in law and were really disappointed. Turned into a big drinking fest with the other people at the deer camp. I will not be going with them again. I have only taken a couple of deers and when I did I was with someone who was a lot more experienced deer hunters. They helped pick stands and cleaning the deer. While this was much appreciated they tend to take over and I really didn't learn enough. My son is really excited and I feel it very important to teach him but this is little different hunting then I did back in the corps.

First any suggestions on where I can take him. Second, does anybody have a good video of cleaning a deer? I got books and handy little deer guide for the field but it’s not the same as seeing it. The guys that showed me how before, did it very fast and efficient. We both have taken the Indiana Hunters Safety course and have our licenses. If you have any suggestions or advice please jump right in.

Can we use ground blinds in IN and what about the electronic hearing protection. I read somewhere in the regs that no amplified hearing devices can be used. Would electronic hearing protection be considered an amplified hearing device.

 

[kludge]

There are lots of good videos on the internet, try google and youtube.

Yes you can use ground blind but there are hunter orange requirements. Read the regs at DNR: DNR Home

 

[indyjoe]

I've always used electronic hearing protection. The only thing I've read is about using electronic calls, being illegal for deer. I'm curious about electronic amplification.

I've been stopped and checked by a ranger while hunting and he didn't say anything about my electronic ears.

While I don't see going out this year for the Youth hunt, I think my nephew will be ready next year. From what I am reading, they just need a Youth Hunting, not any deer tags for the Youth weekend, right?

 

[Bradsknives]

Electronic/amplified hearing protection is legal...it's the electronic calls for deer that are not.

 

[USMC_0311]

From what I am reading, they just need a Youth Hunting, not any deer tags for the Youth weekend, right?

from page 6 hunting regs 2010
"The youth hunter does not have to possess a hunting license, HIP number or any state stamp but must comply with all other hunting regulations. "
　
　

 

[brotherbill3]

from page 6 hunting regs 2010
"The youth hunter does not have to possess a hunting license, HIP number or any state stamp but must comply with all other hunting regulations. "

USMC - that is for the "FREE YOUTH HUNTING WEEKEND" - that was a few weeks ago for squirrels ... and later in the year again (I think Nov 27/28 - end of deer firearms season).

Youth Deer season is different - they need a youth consolidated (which is EVERYTHING IN ONE) or a Apprentice Deer License for this weekend .. (see end of post below):

I am going out to with my Nephew's 14 Y.O. ... (his dad has to work) ...

Sorry I can't offer any good videos. I've only field dressed 1 deer in my life, but the guy I was with told ME what to do and I know HOW but not well enough to explain on here. As to hearing protection / sound amplification - I think the other posts are right - these are OK but electronic calls are a No-No.

I generally just hunt from a ground position (I have a 'blind' but its too much to put together, got it for turkeys and have yet to use it) ... either state forest land or FWA's that are open. Which reminds me I need to call and verify how that works for where I plan to go this weekend ... hopefully there isn't a waiting list or anything.

Good Luck (and HAVE FUN )

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From the Hunting Guide:
... Youth deer hunting season is Sept. 25 and 26. Youth age 17 or younger on the date of the hunt, and accompanied by an adult of at least 18 years of age, can take one deer of either sex during this special youth deer season.

If the youth hunter takes an antlerless deer during this season it is in addition to any antlerless deer taken during any other season. If the youth hunter takes an antlered deer during this season, they may
not take another antlered deer during the regular archery, firearm, or muzzleloader seasons.

The youth hunter must possess a valid hunting license (youth or deer), but the accompanying adult does not need to possess a hunting license while in the field with the youth hunter.

 

[USMC_0311]

USMC - that is for the "FREE YOUTH HUNTING WEEKEND" - that was a few weeks ago for squirrels ... and later in the year again (I think Nov 27/28 - end of deer firearms season).

Youth Deer season is different - they need a youth consolidated (which is EVERYTHING IN ONE) or a Apprentice Deer License for this weekend .. (see end of post below):

I am going out to with my Nephew's 14 Y.O. ... (his dad has to work) ...

Sorry I can't offer any good videos. I've only field dressed 1 deer in my life, but the guy I was with told ME what to do and I know HOW but not well enough to explain on here. As to hearing protection / sound amplification - I think the other posts are right - these are OK but electronic calls are a No-No.

I generally just hunt from a ground position (I have a 'blind' but its too much to put together, got it for turkeys and have yet to use it) ... either state forest land or FWA's that are open. Which reminds me I need to call and verify how that works for where I plan to go this weekend ... hopefully there isn't a waiting list or anything.

Good Luck (and HAVE FUN )

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From the Hunting Guide:
... Youth deer hunting season is Sept. 25 and 26. Youth age 17 or younger on the date of the hunt, and accompanied by an adult of at least 18 years of age, can take one deer of either sex during this special youth deer season.

If the youth hunter takes an antlerless deer during this season it is in addition to any antlerless deer taken during any other season. If the youth hunter takes an antlered deer during this season, they may
not take another antlered deer during the regular archery, firearm, or muzzleloader seasons.

The youth hunter must possess a valid hunting license (youth or deer), but the accompanying adult does not need to possess a hunting license while in the field with the youth hunter.

Thanks for the info. Pretty much how I understood it I didn'y understand about the actual deer tag. So he does not need a deer tag if he all ready has a youth license?

 

[indyjoe]

Thanks for the info. Pretty much how I understood it I didn'y understand about the actual deer tag. So he does not need a deer tag if he all ready has a youth license?

That is my understanding, just need to have a temporary transportation tag to put on the deer. (You can print one out on the DNR site.)

 

[greg]

Youth hunter mentors - YOU NEED A LICENSE

USMC - that is for the "FREE YOUTH HUNTING WEEKEND" - that was a few weeks ago for squirrels ... and later in the year again (I think Nov 27/28 - end of deer firearms season).

Youth Deer season is different - they need a youth consolidated (which is EVERYTHING IN ONE) or a Apprentice Deer License for this weekend .. (see end of post below):

I am going out to with my Nephew's 14 Y.O. ... (his dad has to work) ...

Sorry I can't offer any good videos. I've only field dressed 1 deer in my life, but the guy I was with told ME what to do and I know HOW but not well enough to explain on here. As to hearing protection / sound amplification - I think the other posts are right - these are OK but electronic calls are a No-No.

I generally just hunt from a ground position (I have a 'blind' but its too much to put together, got it for turkeys and have yet to use it) ... either state forest land or FWA's that are open. Which reminds me I need to call and verify how that works for where I plan to go this weekend ... hopefully there isn't a waiting list or anything.

Good Luck (and HAVE FUN )

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From the Hunting Guide:
... Youth deer hunting season is Sept. 25 and 26. Youth age 17 or younger on the date of the hunt, and accompanied by an adult of at least 18 years of age, can take one deer of either sex during this special youth deer season.

If the youth hunter takes an antlerless deer during this season it is in addition to any antlerless deer taken during any other season. If the youth hunter takes an antlered deer during this season, they may
not take another antlered deer during the regular archery, firearm, or muzzleloader seasons.

The youth hunter must possess a valid hunting license (youth or deer), but the accompanying adult does not need to possess a hunting license while in the field with the youth hunter.

Youth hunter mentors - YOU NEED A LICENSE ....

Even though the Hunting Guides says that you don't need a licnese to mentor a youth this weekend - YOU DO NEED A HUNTING LICENSE

More on the regulations:

– Youth under age 18 on the date of hunt can participate.

– Youth hunters can take either a buck or a doe; if a buck is taken, it is the only buck the youth hunter can take that year, except in an urban deer zone; a doe is in addition to all other antlerless deer that can be taken in the regular seasons.

– Resident youth will need a hunting license (apprentice or regular), such as the resident youth comprehensive hunting & trapping license or a comprehensive lifetime hunting license.

– Non-resident youth will need a non-resident youth deer hunting license—firearm, archery, muzzleloader, or bonus antlerless.

– An adult that is at least 18 years of age must accompany the youth hunter during this special season, be licensed to hunt (unless hunting on his/her own farmland), stay in close proximity to the youth while in the field, and not possess a bow and arrow, crossbow, or firearm, and not accompany more than 2 youth at a time in the field.

– Youth hunters must use legal equipment—archery, crossbow, shotgun, rifle or muzzleloader.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Youth hunter mentors - YOU NEED A LICENSE ....

Even though the Hunting Guides says that you don't need a licnese to mentor a youth this weekend - YOU DO NEED A HUNTING LICENSE

More on the regulations:

– Youth under age 18 on the date of hunt can participate.

– Youth hunters can take either a buck or a doe; if a buck is taken, it is the only buck the youth hunter can take that year, except in an urban deer zone; a doe is in addition to all other antlerless deer that can be taken in the regular seasons.

– Resident youth will need a hunting license (apprentice or regular), such as the resident youth comprehensive hunting & trapping license or a comprehensive lifetime hunting license.

– Non-resident youth will need a non-resident youth deer hunting license—firearm, archery, muzzleloader, or bonus antlerless.

– An adult that is at least 18 years of age must accompany the youth hunter during this special season, be licensed to hunt (unless hunting on his/her own farmland), stay in close proximity to the youth while in the field, and not possess a bow and arrow, crossbow, or firearm, and not accompany more than 2 youth at a time in the field.

– Youth hunters must use legal equipment—archery, crossbow, shotgun, rifle or muzzleloader.

People who don't know what they are ruining are making Indiana more and more like the people's republic of wisconsin every year with all their ignorant crap, rules, regulations, loop holes, exceptions and exemptions, speacial this and special that, maps lines, zones, and lawyer crap.

They'll get it so you have to pay a guide, rent a place, and hire some one to pour you Cheerios for you to hunt sooner or later. Either that or kill every thing that walks and leave it lay to put the market hunting vulchers out of business so they'll move on to the next carcass they can sit on until the craze is over in Indianapolis.

 

[brotherbill3]

Youth hunter mentors - YOU NEED A LICENSE ....

Even though the Hunting Guides says that you don't need a licnese to mentor a youth this weekend - YOU DO NEED A HUNTING LICENSE

.....

– An adult that is at least 18 years of age must accompany the youth hunter during this special season, be licensed to hunt (unless hunting on his/her own farmland), stay in close proximity to the youth while in the field, and not possess a bow and arrow, crossbow, or firearm, and not accompany more than 2 youth at a time in the field.

Good Catch on that Greg!! Don't you just love when government information is really mis-information ... I know you are correct - so just for my defense I copied and pasted from the deer hunting guide ... and didn't really read all of it ... (we need a dunce smily)

Do you think they are trying to trap us as we teach the next generation?

and Good Luck to everyone.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Do you think they are trying to trap us as we teach the next generation?

and Good Luck to everyone.

No, it's the 2% of Indiana Deer Hunting socialists Association who think they should tell you how to hunt. When you didn't they do their hunting with legislature attending meeting after meeting after meeting until you get fed up with their meeting you to death and go hunting.

Then they declare it a majority, kiss some politicians butt, and throw the rule book on your back. Special licenses? Youth license, old timer's license, urban zones, one buck rules, jumping through permission hoops like their hunter ed they use to blow of propaganda, let a few hunt early, move the season around to suit them, cut your time in the woods so they don't miss work and suck up time in indianapolis.

Use to be a time in Indiana not long ago when you bought a life time hunting license, put it in your pocket and you were good to go hunt deer any where you had permission. Rules were the rules and the rules were the same in every county in the state, the season was the season in every county in the state, if you were legal you were legal every where in the state, the season was the same for every one in the state, it started with a few days of the same dates in the same month every year for decades.

People LEARNED to hunt the way the WERE SUPPOSE TO HUNT all their life, they didn't start whining because the rules changed every couple years or they got a year older and were suppose to be a big boy now.

Now you've got deer hunting politics. Those two words in the same sentence make me want to puke and kill something at the same time.

 

[Greg.B]

Greg's post made me jump out of my seat a little, because at first, I was going to swear up and down that he was incorrect. However, after my barrage of calls to the IN Deer Hotline, IN DNR Customer Service Center, and District DNR Headquarters, it appears that the licensing requirements HAVE changed, effective with yesterday's email, from which Greg's quote is taken. I had looked over that little tidbit of information last night, and when I read it today, I though to myself "this has got to be a misprint." Apparently, it's not a misprint.

Two of the above sources verified that is has, in fact, changed; these were the Deer Hotline and the DNR Customer Service Department (Kevin Hoffman). I was told that this was a last minute change, and that the information was sent out to all District Headquarters and CO's yesterday, which coincides with the information that many of us received yesterday in our email boxes as well.

Regardless of this, my call to my local DNR District Headquarters (District 7) revealed the fact that they have no idea that this requirement has changed, and are advising the public to "go by what's printed in the current guide and on the DNR website." Neither of those sources have not been updated and still say that the adult does NOT need to be licensed. This information came both from the receptionist/secretary directly, and also was verified by her again after she phoned one of the CO's who told her the same thing.

When asked what type of license the adult must have, both the Deer Hotline and Customer Service Department said "any type of hunting license". I then proceeded to clarify that the adult does not need a deer hunting license, and was told that again that any license would suffice, be it a deer license for archery, firearm, or muzzleloader, an urban deer license, a bonus antlerless license, or even a basic hunting license.

One of the concerns I have is that apparently, local CO's do NOT know this has changed, and have no clue of how the regulations apply. If THEY don't know, then how are we supposed to know?!

What would happen if one of us had gone without a license, and ran into a CO that WAS aware of the changes? We apparently would have been committing an illegal act...I wonder what type of ramifications that could have brought even though there was no knowlege of committing the infraction...

Last question, why on EARTH would they wait until only five days before the season to change something like that?

*rant off*

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I can't tell you how to clean a deer, but I would suggest not doing it this way.

Entensity.net - Media

 

[usmcdjb]

Thanks for the info. Pretty much how I understood it I didn'y understand about the actual deer tag. So he does not need a deer tag if he all ready has a youth license?

If he has the youth consolidated license, that covers it. Just print out a temporary transportation tag, and if he kills a deer make sure he fills it out with the required info and tags the deer. My dad got a warning one year because he didn't put it on the deer - filled it out and put it in his pocket while dragging the deer out - and a CO checked him.

As for field dressing, it's not rocket science. You definitely get more used to it with some practice. If it's a buck, cut off his male parts. Then cut the stomach open from the breastbone to the pelvis. If you're going to mount it, you might skip this part or don't go too far, but cut the ribs on one side of the breastbone up toward the neck. This will help get the chest cavity cleared out easier.

Cut all the way around the diaphram, and reach into the chest cavity and cut the windpipe as far up as you can. Then it's just a matter of pulling, cutting and clearing out all the guts.

You need to get the anus cut out of there sometime too, and I try to split the pelvis if I can with my knife.

Let me just say, be careful with that knife up inside the deer - it's darn easy to cut your hand in the process!!

Wish I could help with a spot, and even helping field dress and drag one out. But I'm lucky to have where I do to hunt. My private land stash has diminished greatly over the years.

Semper Fi!

 

[El Cazador]

There isn't usually a big crowd at Atterbury for this weekend's Youth Hunt. There will be enough experienced hunters there with their young hunters for any help you might need for field dressing, blood trailing, etc. Last I heard there were a lot of deer there again this year. Rifles aren't allowed there, though. Bows and shotguns only, I think.

 

[POC]

Changing the rules days before the day of starting it is ignorant. If I didn't already have a license, and we weren't going to be hunting on our property, I wouldn't get a license. How is "Joe Blow" supposed to know they changed the rules? Especially if you have a guide in your hand, and even double check on the website!
I agree with Jack Ryan on this issue. Politics at work.

 

[indyjoe]

If he has the youth consolidated license, that covers it. Just print out a temporary transportation tag, and if he kills a deer make sure he fills it out with the required info and tags the deer. My dad got a warning one year because he didn't put it on the deer - filled it out and put it in his pocket while dragging the deer out - and a CO checked him.

According to the regs on the DNR site, it does not have to be on the animal unless you leave it. While dragging it out, a filled out tag is fine.

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/tempdeer.pdf

 

[usmcdjb]

According to the regs on the DNR site, it does not have to be on the animal unless you leave it. While dragging it out, a filled out tag is fine.

In this case, it was dragged out, in the truck and we were checking in (was a draw hunt down south). He shoulda put the tag on once it was in the truck. Live and learn.

 

[Greg.B]

In this case, it was dragged out, in the truck and we were checking in (was a draw hunt down south). He shoulda put the tag on BEFORE it was in the truck. Live and learn.

FTFY