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  • hoosierdoc

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    Used Flat screen TV = $250. These people disrupt lives and risk dying over such petty efforts. Very sad.

    OP: are you pointing out criminals are dumb?
     

    T.Lex

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    Burglars posing as police surprise family in west Indianapolis h - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

    Seems to be a lot of poor thinking in this one... First, if the police need to get into your house, they're going to get into your house without you opening the door. Second, I don't think actual police will stand outside your door yelling "Police! Police!" until you open it.

    Actually, since no-knock warrants are disfavored (particularly by INGOtarians), police standing outside a door until someone answers is pretty common. Keep in mind, there need to be either exigent circumstances (in which case, they don't wait) or a warrant. BUT, there's nothing to stop investigators from going up to front doors and asking to talk to someone. And no time limit for how long they can wait. :)
     

    Fargo

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    Actually, since no-knock warrants are disfavored (particularly by INGOtarians), police standing outside a door until someone answers is pretty common. Keep in mind, there need to be either exigent circumstances (in which case, they don't wait) or a warrant. BUT, there's nothing to stop investigators from going up to front doors and asking to talk to someone. And no time limit for how long they can wait. :)

    The local judiciary where I am disagrees with you on how long they can wait. The rule I see applied is that they may remain as long as any other reasonable door knocker would; they don't get to set up camp.
     

    TaunTaun

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    And here I was waiting for a story about police officers walking in and stealing someone's wallet or purse...
     

    T.Lex

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    The local judiciary where I am disagrees with you on how long they can wait. The rule I see applied is that they may remain as long as any other reasonable door knocker would; they don't get to set up camp.

    Interesting. I don't think I've ever seen an appellate case on that (although I'm open to correction).

    My experience is usually that they don't wait long enough. ;) They get impatient and start doing things to gain entry that maybe they shouldn't do. But those are the cases that get published opinions. :)
     

    Fargo

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    Interesting. I don't think I've ever seen an appellate case on that (although I'm open to correction).

    My experience is usually that they don't wait long enough. ;) They get impatient and start doing things to gain entry that maybe they shouldn't do. But those are the cases that get published opinions. :)

    I don't know of an appellate case directly on point, but all the ones on the subject say that the police can knock and talk because anyone can knock and talk. The trial court rulings I have seen suggest that since it isn't reasonable for the guy selling magazines to set up camp on you porch, it isn't reasonable for the cops to either.
     
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