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[other dave]

Is it just me or does anyone else see a potential problem here?

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...mt_380_backup_and_taurus_608_357_8_3_8_a.html

 

[Aszerigan]

No. What are you seeing?

 

[other dave]

The pictures of the pistol IN the holster. Isn't that considered an AOW?

 

[DaKruiser]

The pictures of the pistol IN the holster. Isn't that considered an AOW?

Nope, just a pistol in a holster.

 

[other dave]

Excuse my ignorance but I was under the impression that if the pistol could be fired from the holster it was an AOW.

 

[shooter521]

Nope, just a pistol in a holster.

If the holster conceals the pistol and the pistol can be fired from within the holster, the combination is an NFA weapon (AOW).

About 2/3 of the way down the page:

Firearms - Guides - Identification of Firearms | ATF

Given that the holster in the link does not fully conceal the gun (the grip is exposed), I don't know how that would be classified, but just to be on the safe side I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole.

 

[Aszerigan]

Exposed slide might make the difference, as it doesn't make an attempt to conceal the fact that it's a firearm. It's a common design for many holster manufacturers these days. They are illegal in CA, however.

 

[shibumiseeker]

The pictures of the pistol IN the holster. Isn't that considered an AOW?

To the best of my understanding: maybe. When the newer styles came out that don't cover the slide the ATF ruled that because it was readily identifiable as a gun and the slide was not covered, it didn't qualify as a holster, but as an accessory. My reading of it when I was researching it last year was that ones that disguised the gun when plainly visible were considered an AOW and one of the criteria they mentioned was that the slide was covered on some of the older styles.

 

[Scutter01]

Either way, a holster that doesn't cover the trigger isn't very useful.

 

[DaKruiser]

Excuse my ignorance but I was under the impression that if the pistol could be fired from the holster it was an AOW.

Nope, excuse my ignorance!

I didn't know that made it even close to an AOW! My bad!

But really it just shows how rediculious the NFA laws are!

 

[lucky4034]

What a stupid rule....

 

[Echelon]

If the holster conceals the pistol and the pistol can be fired from within the holster, the combination is an NFA weapon (AOW).

About 2/3 of the way down the page:

Firearms - Guides - Identification of Firearms | ATF

Given that the holster in the link does not fully conceal the gun (the grip is exposed), I don't know how that would be classified, but just to be on the safe side I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole.

Learn something new every day. I swear it would take a lifetime to fully understand every firearm regulation. Especially if you consider state laws.

 

[other dave]

Learn something new every day. I swear it would take a lifetime to fully understand every firearm regulation. Especially if you consider state laws.

I guess it's too late now as the seller shows it as SPF. https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...mt_380_backup_and_taurus_608_357_8_3_8_a.html

I did try to advise him that the pix of the pistol in the holster might be a bad idea

 

[__Doc_]

If the holster conceals the pistol and the pistol can be fired from within the holster, the combination is an NFA weapon (AOW).

About 2/3 of the way down the page:

Firearms - Guides - Identification of Firearms | ATF

Given that the holster in the link does not fully conceal the gun (the grip is exposed), I don't know how that would be classified, but just to be on the safe side I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole.

Could buy it without the holster or not use the holster? Wouldnt that solve the issue? If he doesnt sell it with the holster its fine, but I suppose if he sells it with the holster and it is infact an AOW, then you'd be ****ed. I've never heard of this, so thanks for the info. After reading the link and comparing the two, I feel like its not an AOW since its not fully concealed and you can tell its a firearm. To me the holster just makes it more accessible to get to the trigger

 

[JetGirl]

If the holster conceals the pistol and the pistol can be fired from within the holster, the combination is an NFA weapon (AOW).

About 2/3 of the way down the page:

Firearms - Guides - Identification of Firearms | ATF.

Shooter521 has it right.

Given that the holster in the link does not fully conceal the gun (the grip is exposed), I don't know how that would be classified.

ATF description doesn't say how much (or little) of the gun would need to be exposed before it doesn't apply... It just says:

Distinctive Characteristics:
Holster has hole to fire weapon

 

[Bigtanker]

Good info to know. My father in law has a setup similar to this and I will get him up to speed.

 

[Bigtanker]

Is there any way to find out when this became an NFA item?