Uh, perhaps, you might try looking here:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ng/228893-james_yeager_and_chris_costa-2.html which is the second page of this thread.
Or try a search, which is how I found them.
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James Yeager and Chris Costa
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Uh, perhaps, you might try looking here:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ng/228893-james_yeager_and_chris_costa-2.html which is the second page of this thread.
Or try a search, which is how I found them.
I have read the AAR and watched the video several times. I have also been in attendance when James gave a presentation on the incident and narrated the video. Based on all that I know I have no issues with his actions. Could he have done better? Sure, everyone could do better. Hindsight is a luxury that only critics have. If he was a coward he would have ran away completely. All I see that happened is that he maneuvered to a position with cover that allowed him the opportunity to engage the threat with suppressive fire. If I was shot and continued to get shot at I would hope that one of my team mates could get into a position of cover to return fire. I sure as hell don’t want them trapped with me in a bullet magnet; I would want them to deal with the threat. He was only about 30 yards from the vehicles. A vehicle that is not cover when being shot out by one or more PKM's.
There is quite a bit not in the AAR, take for example the fact that the contractor in the trail vehicle got out of his vehicle and fired his MP5 several times to warn approaching vehicles. I wonder why that part was not in the AAR, perhaps because it was a British Company and that contractor was British as well? What a great way to get some attention to some easy targets stuck on a road with no cover and easy lines of sight. The fact that is it was a British Company and they were looking for an escape goat, the American James Yeager.
Now with that said I consider James a friend so my post may be bias. But I can tell you at first I had some reservations about James and his training. As a veteran it’s hard to accept that a I could learn something from a civilian especially when it comes to weapon handling skills. After serving 14 years and have a good deal of training as an enlisted person and an officer it was a bit difficult for me to accept that anyone non-military could teach tactics and gun handling skills worth a crap. But after my first class with TR many years ago, before James went to IRAQ, I could see that I could benefit from his training. At the time the military did a very poor job of training with regards to personal gun handling skills. More training was devoted toward keeping your Humvee PMCS’d every day then dealing with a personal threat. Now over the years I, my wife, my two oldest sons and several of my friends have taken several classes. My last class was HRCC a few years ago. During all that time James has pissed me off, been a prick/dick/******* whatever you want to call him. But he has always been loyal and a good friend I would never consider him a coward.
In the end each of us will have opinions about James and his training, I am sure they will vary quite a bit. But the one thing you can’t really debate is that he has had thousands and thousands of students that were very happy with his training and students that have used the skills he taught them to take deal with situations where mindset and tactics were critical to success.
If you want to open your eyes a bit your always welcome at GOTX, but be careful of the Fighting Rifle Moderator, he is a prick.
There is quite a bit not in the AAR, take for example the fact that the contractor in the trail vehicle got out of his vehicle and fired his MP5 several times to warn approaching vehicles. I wonder why that part was not in the AAR, perhaps because it was a British Company and that contractor was British as well? What a great way to get some attention to some easy targets stuck on a road with no cover and easy lines of sight. The fact that is it was a British Company and they were looking for an escape goat, the American James Yeager.
Now with that said I consider James a friend so my post may be bias. But I can tell you at first I had some reservations about James and his training. As a veteran it’s hard to accept that a I could learn something from a civilian especially when it comes to weapon handling skills. After serving 14 years and have a good deal of training as an enlisted person and an officer it was a bit difficult for me to accept that anyone non-military could teach tactics and gun handling skills worth a crap. But after my first class with TR many years ago, before James went to IRAQ, I could see that I could benefit from his training. At the time the military did a very poor job of training with regards to personal gun handling skills. More training was devoted toward keeping your Humvee PMCS’d every day then dealing with a personal threat. Now over the years I, my wife, my two oldest sons and several of my friends have taken several classes. My last class was HRCC a few years ago. During all that time James has pissed me off, been a prick/dick/******* whatever you want to call him. But he has always been loyal and a good friend I would never consider him a coward.
In the end each of us will have opinions about James and his training, I am sure they will vary quite a bit. But the one thing you can’t really debate is that he has had thousands and thousands of students that were very happy with his training and students that have used the skills he taught them to take deal with situations where mindset and tactics were critical to success.
If you want to open your eyes a bit your always welcome at GOTX, but be careful of the Fighting Rifle Moderator, he is a prick.
Fordtough25
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I'm not an expert in anything here but the way I see it if you like Yeager's video's and training style watch it or take them. If not then don't click on the thread, and follow somebody else's training ideas. I view several of the "top" trainer's videos, and I have a set of Magpul Dynamic's video's on the way to view and study. I was not in the special forces, nor a swat team sadly so I train as I can and try to improve. 
Never let it be said that I will not listen to both sides of a situation.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060616035130/http://****ersm.com/AAR_Yeager.html
- Interesting write up (supposedly from Yeager).
If what he describes is true I can not disagree with the issues he has raised concerning the companies alleged method of operation. In fact I can see, if it is true, where those conditions would be very frustrating not to mention a danger to the men working in them.
That does not mean to say that I agree with his alleged actions in the official AAR. In fact it doesn't have anything to do with the actions described in the official AAR.
I do have to say it is nice to see he admits to screwing up with the vehicle. I am not so impressed with what seems to be a continual reference to his being the only one following sop. It seemed to me like his constant excuse for leaving his team mates.
While he did give praise to several of his team mates I could not help but find the comment about "Steph" to be odd. Almost like he was insinuating that the situation occurred because "Steph" discounted "the Dicker" and perhaps the reason Yeager couldn't identify where the attack was coming from was because "Steph" "did not relay the info on the shooter" to him... but perhaps I am reading into it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060616035215/http://****ersm.com/Report_After_Yeager.html
Supposedly Yeagers account of the incident itself. Again very interesting. While there are portions that sound like marketing lingo and attempts to justify actions (rather than just stating what happened) it basically (IMO) differs from the AAR pretty significantly.
In Yeagers description he does more than just fire 15 rounds and run away in addition he claims he did not shoot two civilians but two members of a "clean up crew of insurgants (article here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060616034957/http://****ersm.com/Article_Callinan.html ). There are several other statements he makes that I would question but there really is no benefit in completely dissecting his testimony here, better you read it and make your own conclusions.
Is it possible that they are using the only american as a scape goat? Yes it is possible and can not be discounted especially if he was branded as a "trouble maker" by the company.
My question would be if any of the surviving team members (with the exception of Team leader who he clearly did not like) has come forward and backed his account of events and if not why?
In any case interesting reads. Here is the link to the "main" link page:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060613074947/http://****ersm.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20060616035130/http://****ersm.com/AAR_Yeager.html
- Interesting write up (supposedly from Yeager).
If what he describes is true I can not disagree with the issues he has raised concerning the companies alleged method of operation. In fact I can see, if it is true, where those conditions would be very frustrating not to mention a danger to the men working in them.
That does not mean to say that I agree with his alleged actions in the official AAR. In fact it doesn't have anything to do with the actions described in the official AAR.
I do have to say it is nice to see he admits to screwing up with the vehicle. I am not so impressed with what seems to be a continual reference to his being the only one following sop. It seemed to me like his constant excuse for leaving his team mates.
While he did give praise to several of his team mates I could not help but find the comment about "Steph" to be odd. Almost like he was insinuating that the situation occurred because "Steph" discounted "the Dicker" and perhaps the reason Yeager couldn't identify where the attack was coming from was because "Steph" "did not relay the info on the shooter" to him... but perhaps I am reading into it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060616035215/http://****ersm.com/Report_After_Yeager.html
Supposedly Yeagers account of the incident itself. Again very interesting. While there are portions that sound like marketing lingo and attempts to justify actions (rather than just stating what happened) it basically (IMO) differs from the AAR pretty significantly.
In Yeagers description he does more than just fire 15 rounds and run away in addition he claims he did not shoot two civilians but two members of a "clean up crew of insurgants (article here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060616034957/http://****ersm.com/Article_Callinan.html ). There are several other statements he makes that I would question but there really is no benefit in completely dissecting his testimony here, better you read it and make your own conclusions.
Is it possible that they are using the only american as a scape goat? Yes it is possible and can not be discounted especially if he was branded as a "trouble maker" by the company.
My question would be if any of the surviving team members (with the exception of Team leader who he clearly did not like) has come forward and backed his account of events and if not why?
In any case interesting reads. Here is the link to the "main" link page:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060613074947/http://****ersm.com/
I just tried them and noticed that. Let me see if I can figure out why. They go to an archived website so that might be a reason.
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Ok it looks like the problem is the profanity filter. you will need to insert the "F" word where the four *'s are.
So basically click on the link then when it takes you to that wayback machine beta page, you go to the address bar at the top and replace the 4 *'s with the "f" word. That will take you to the pages.
Here is a link to the main archived page. You get access all the articles put together here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060613074947/http://("F"wordhere)ersm.com/
Where i have the parenthesis you need to insert the "f" word without parenthesis. No space between the "f"word and "ersm.com".
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shooter521
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At least he didn't say GlockTalk.
Thats exactly what I was thinking.
I will give you a call and we can arrange something.
shooter521
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ERSM is Edinburgh Risk Security Management, the company Yeager and the others were working for in Iraq when this incident went down.
At least he didn't say GlockTalk.
Now that would be a low blow.
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