"Kids" are soft. even "kids" in their late 20s-early 30s

[Cameramonkey]

Our church just had its first holiday bazaar today. The new member that suggested it and her fiancee are great people. But even though she handed off most of her day to day planning org duties to my wife who is on staff, and REALLY only put in hard work for 2 hours of an evening Thurs/Fri and then the actual event today for 8* hours, they both said "ugh. We're done. We wont be at church tomorrow. We're sleeping in." Dude! You could have easily checked out/slept starting at 5p and been recharged for church tomorrow easily. Trust me, I Know. I was so exhausted after devouring the carryout pizza tonight, I tried to nap at 5 but my wife was screaming at the TV watching the Buckeyes. I did get some intermittent rest. (obviously, since I'm posting at 11:45... now on my way to bed.)

And I KNOW they havent been run as ragged as me. Multiple long shifts this week, including a 13 hour work shift Thursday where I texted Mrs Monkey at 8pm to tell her I was on my way home only to get a call saying "you ARE coming to the church, RIGHT?!?!? RIGHT?!?! We need help planning." Which pushed my 7am start to 10:30p. Yet I was able to rest and recuperate to work yesterday, and then the same time these "kids" did today.

And its not like we are asking them to work hard labor tomorrow at church. They just have to sit quietly in the pew and stay awake. Is it so hard to sit peacefully and listen? Its not like they are workers who have to switch "on" to wrangle kids in the nursery or other active tasks. Just show up and stay awake. Is that so hard? If so, do what I do.. take a nap afterward if its that hard.

/rant

 

[BigRed]

Hint:

Hard times are coming.

This ain't it.

 

[Frosty]

There’s a few youngsters out there that will get after it, but yeah, for the most part I see a lot of early 20’s kids come in, do a day’s work and turn tail and run. They no will power, and no knowledge that, yes, at the moment this sucks, but you’ll get used to it in a couple weeks and you’ll be fine.

 

[cg21]

I was a supervisor on the construction site…. Young workers would come in and think they could slack off or do the “easy” jobs that I had older experienced workers doing. But what they didn’t realize is the “easy” jobs took more skills and that’s why they were shoveling crap.

But I have a hard time believing this phenomenon is exclusive to this generation I bet a young worker was the same in the 70’s. I think Soft people have always been around.

edit to add: maybe there are more soft people now because of how soft the work is ? Think how many people sit in front of a computer now and all they have to complain about is the thermostat…..

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

We had this one lady at our church that it was kinda her schtick to come up with ideas, get other people to buy in, and then she’d fade away, avoiding much of the work. I was on the governing board one year when one of her cousins and a deacon of the church was packing up to move out of state. She suggested “we” put on a big blow out for a going away party for them. When the chair appointed her as the organizer of the party, that was the last we ever heard of it.

I can’t say it’s an age thing. It’s a volunteer spirit (or lack of spirit) thing. Getting people to step up to get anything done is tough. I know after years of always being there and volunteering for “everything”, my wife and I have taken a step back.

 

[04FXSTS]

Worked in a couple places this was evident, started in a foundry in 1993 at 46 years old and watched young kids work till their first break. They would never come back. Same thing in late 1990's at a bumper factory, a lot never made it past lunch. Jim.

 

[Ziggidy]

"We're done. We wont be at church tomorrow. We're sleeping in."

That alone is a major problem. That mindset is growing and hurting the church; and in return influencing our society. That mindset was growing prior to covid but actually exploded during covid and the results are being felt today. Many churches added online services to accommodate the stay at home mandates but even today, people are slow to return. We have become lazy and lost the need for strong fellowship with other believers.

People want to show up for the activity but don't like to stay for the cleanup.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

I read this as I watch a old documentary Why We Fight. Its about the lead up to WW2 The change in America and it's people is profound. And very sad.
You are correct. The youth and even the adults are very weak. With the exception of probably 5%-10% of the population.

 

[Expat]

I remember when I was a young guy, there was no way I was going to let anyone outwork me. I would just about kill myself to outdo my FiL for sure.

 

[drillsgt]

That alone is a major problem. That mindset is growing and hurting the church; and in return influencing our society. That mindset was growing prior to covid but actually exploded during covid and the results are being felt today. Many churches added online services to accommodate the stay at home mandates but even today, people are slow to return. We have become lazy and lost the need for strong fellowship with other believers.

People want to show up for the activity but don't like to stay for the cleanup.

This is true, our Church already had streaming for our services before Covid so they just continued during Covid but it's just now starting to get attendance back up again. My wife and I were both pretty disappointed that our Church caved so quickly and halted services though, still haven't really gotten over it.

 

[KittySlayer]

Nearly everyone in my wife’s family has never worked more than 8 hours in a day. This includes the 60 year olds and the 25-30 year olds. If they work a 40 hour week they are “exhausted”.

I used to work 80 hour weeks although now generally just 45+/- anymore. There are some youngsters at my office that are hard working but generally I see a lot of lazy kids (and parents).

This lack of work ethic and softness carries over to church and volunteer activities.

 

[Hoosierdood]

I work 6 days a week, 55+ hours. I don't get a day to sleep in. Sundays (my only day off), I still get up and get ready for church. Saturday afternoons and Sunday afternoons are my time to relax and do projects around the house. The current generation of 20 year olds don't know what responsibility and hard work looks like. I'm raising my kids to be the exception to that rule.

 

[Ark]

*yawn*

Just woke up. Man it's nice not having anything to do on Sundays. What'd I miss?

 

[Frosty]

I work 6 days a week, 55+ hours. I don't get a day to sleep in. Sundays (my only day off), I still get up and get ready for church. Saturday afternoons and Sunday afternoons are my time to relax and do projects around the house. The current generation of 20 year olds don't know what responsibility and hard work looks like. I'm raising my kids to be the exception to that rule.

Sleeping in is overrated

 

[tv1217]

Idk about that. The biggest POS we have at work(steel mill) is a late millennial/early zoomer but the rest are reliable, good workers. The most statistically crapbagulous demographic where I work is made of GenXers.

 

[MinuteManMike]

This is true, our Church already had streaming for our services before Covid so they just continued during Covid but it's just now starting to get attendance back up again. My wife and I were both pretty disappointed that our Church caved so quickly and halted services though, still haven't really gotten over it.

I think most preachers these days are the ones Jesus Christ warned us about.

 

[PGRChaplain]

Church, American Legion, DAV, Moose Lodge, Eagles, 40 & 8, etc etc all operate the same.
5% of the members do all the work.
90% of the members go along with this.
The remaining 5% complain about what the working 5% are doing.

 

[Gabriel]

I slept through church again today for the 1,768th week in a row.

 

[Creedmoor]

I think most preachers these days are the ones Jesus Christ warned us about.

The ones with Rolex's?

 

[Creedmoor]

Church, American Legion, DAV, Moose Lodge, Eagles, 40 & 8, etc etc all operate the same.
5% of the members do all the work.
90% of the members go along with this.
The remaining 5% complain about what the working 5% are doing.

Almost all of the positions at Alex 1771 Eagles are paid positions. Bartenders, Kitchen, after event cleanup, Trustees, Treasure and Secretary get paid.
President and VP do not. They are mostly for pics in the newpaper.