M&P Virgin

[netsecurity]

I've never been a Glock fan. Since owning a terribly innaccurate G22, I haven't really desired another striker fired gun. I've been happily sticking to the DA/SA varieties with a decocker/safety. But there has been so much talk about the M&P that I finally broke down and got my first M&P9C...

Pure joy. Every shot on target, and almost no felt recoil (the compact mind you). It even seemed less recoil than my new full size PX4 strangely enough. I don't recall reading about how easy it is for follow up shots, but it is. Glass trigger, now I know what that means finally. I was shooting so good, that I decided to shoot one handed, which I've never practiced, and continued to shoot on target every time! I would've literally had to try to miss. I've heard that before about the M&P, but it really felt that way. This is my new EDC, hands down.

My only complaint is that the flat, horizontal safety can easily be activated while gripping the gun with two thumbs forward, so I'll probably just remove the safety for that reason. Normally I prefer a safety for sure. Oh, and it is quite difficult to dissassemble, but I'll gladly deal with that for such a great shooter.

 

[scottka]

How is it difficult to disassemble? I'm glad you enjoy it. I sure do enjoy mine.

 

[actaeon277]

+1 m&p
-1 safety

I was nervous at first carrying one in chamber. Now I have no problem.
Previous EDC was DA/SA, carried one in chamber, hammer decocked.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

difficult to disassemble?

Seriously?

I hope you don't every attempt a detail strip on a Walther P22. hehe

-J-

 

[netsecurity]

How is it difficult to disassemble? I'm glad you enjoy it. I sure do enjoy mine.

Holding down the spring loaded dissassembly lever with left hand, while racking the slide with ony the right can be challenging. I'm sure with some practice it will get easier.

 

[DustyDawg48]

Congrats on picking up a great gun! I just added an M&P9c to my collection last week and I had a similar experience as you. I still can't believe how nicely it shoots. I opted for the thumb safety and do shoot with my thumb riding on top of the thumb safety and I think it gives me a bit of extra control. I can easily see adding several more M&Ps before it is all over with!

 

[hpclayto]

I've never been a Glock fan. Since owning a terribly innaccurate G22, I haven't really desired another striker fired gun. I've been happily sticking to the DA/SA varieties with a decocker/safety. But there has been so much talk about the M&P that I finally broke down and got my first M&P9C...

Pure joy. Every shot on target, and almost no felt recoil (the compact mind you). It even seemed less recoil than my new full size PX4 strangely enough. I don't recall reading about how easy it is for follow up shots, but it is. Glass trigger, now I know what that means finally. I was shooting so good, that I decided to shoot one handed, which I've never practiced, and continued to shoot on target every time! I would've literally had to try to miss. I've heard that before about the M&P, but it really felt that way. This is my new EDC, hands down.

My only complaint is that the flat, horizontal safety can easily be activated while gripping the gun with two thumbs forward, so I'll probably just remove the safety for that reason. Normally I prefer a safety for sure. Oh, and it is quite difficult to dissassemble, but I'll gladly deal with that for such a great shooter.

I'd like a go with that G22! Glad you found something that works for you though. They are indeed, fine guns.

 

[jgreiner]

Hard to disassemble? I can tear mine down in under 30 seconds. And I do so regularly. If you want difficult to disassemble and assemble, try a Ruger MkIII WITHOUT the stripping kit installed.

The MP couldn't be any easier.

 

[jgarst]

I see what he means about hard to hold and flip the lever and slide it. It was kinda hard for me too at first but you get the hang of it after a few times. It's all about how you hold the gun when trying to disassemble.

 

[zibby43]

Since owning a terribly innaccurate G22 . . .

I hate to break it to ya, but it wasn't the G22 that was inaccurate.

Nonetheless, congrats on the M&P!

 

[netsecurity]

I hate to break it to ya, but it wasn't the G22 that was inaccurate.

Nonetheless, congrats on the M&P!

My brother in law shot it too, and he's a professional security guy (ex marine, works in Iraq now for State Dept.) and he agreed that the sights were off quite a bit. I have developed a lot more skill in the last five years though for sure. The two thumbs forward grip has made me a far better shooter. I'm still no fan of the .40 caliber recoil though. I never liked the way the Glock felt either, its just not for me.

 

[avengedXT]

Never had to strip a fullsize / compact M&P, but I know my M&P Shield takes down in a SIG tradition. I can take them down in mere seconds - are the regular size M&P's the same as the shield? If so, just lock back the slide (make sure mag is out), rotate takedown lever downward. Then reset the slide and dryfire.

 

[netsecurity]

Yea, it sounds the same. It's just that the releasing the slide is difficult with one hand. I'll figure out how to hold it though and it will be fine. I like the XD way better, because the lock is not spring loaded and stays put, which allows you to use both hands to release the slide.

 

[OneBadV8]

Yea, it sounds the same. It's just that the releasing the slide is difficult with one hand. I'll figure out how to hold it though and it will be fine. I like the XD way better, because the lock is not spring loaded and stays put, which allows you to use both hands to release the slide.

the slide lever on my M&P isn't spring loaded. once you turn it to 90 degrees it'll sit there and wait for me to tear it down.

 

[netsecurity]

Weird! My M&P9C is spring loaded. I pull the release lever down and if I let go it bounces right back up. It's a pretty strong spring too. Without that spring it would be almost identical to an XD.

EDIT: My research finds that all M&P Compact models have the spring loaded release.

 

[nfranke]

I just got a m&p .357c and i agree with you on all points except stripping it, i found it very easy, within minutes of getting it home i had it apart and back together

 

[netsecurity]

I just got a m&p .357c and i agree with you on all points except stripping it, i found it very easy, within minutes of getting it home i had it apart and back together

It may not seem that difficult, but it is more difficult compared to every other handgun I own, besides my S&W Model 39, which requires a hammer and pin.

 

[tgmorris99]

Weird! My M&P9C is spring loaded. I pull the release lever down and if I let go it bounces right back up. It's a pretty strong spring too. Without that spring it would be almost identical to an XD.

EDIT: My research finds that all M&P Compact models have the spring loaded release.

Mine does the same thing but apparently there is a fix for this so that once it's rotated into position it will stay in place w/o needing to keep pressing on it. The fix, which apparently only takes a couple of minutes, involves removing the lever and filing off the small nub that is on it. It can be a DIY or, as I understand it, S&W will do it for you and re-blue the part.

 

[scottka]

Weird! My M&P9C is spring loaded. I pull the release lever down and if I let go it bounces right back up. It's a pretty strong spring too. Without that spring it would be almost identical to an XD.

EDIT: My research finds that all M&P Compact models have the spring loaded release.

Hmm... Well that is news to me. Learn something everyday, I reckon. Thanks for the info. Guess I've never stripped a compact version.

 

[zibby43]

My brother in law shot it too, and he's a professional security guy (ex marine, works in Iraq now for State Dept.) and he agreed that the sights were off quite a bit. I have developed a lot more skill in the last five years though for sure. The two thumbs forward grip has made me a far better shooter. I'm still no fan of the .40 caliber recoil though. I never liked the way the Glock felt either, its just not for me.

I see. Sights can be "off" (and can be adjusted). I was just pointing out the fact that modern, polymer, striker-fired pistols are usually fully capable of sub 4-inch groups out to distances of 25 yards and it's the shooter that is typically the culprit in making the pistol "inaccurate."

I picked up an HK45C (not striker-fired) a while ago and it's universally thought of as one of the most accurate .45 pistols currently available (behind the 1911 and just slightly ahead of M&P .45). The pistol is, simply put, tremendously accurate. However, the first time I took it to the range, I shot like absolute crap with it (by my standards) because I just was not used to the heavy HK triggers (especially the DA pull). As I practiced more with the pistol, accuracy was achieved as I THE SHOOTER became more proficient.

If the pistol doesn't feel good in your hand and you don't like the recoil associated with a particular round, then these factors are going to contribute to inaccuracy on the part of the shooter.