Marion County Fish and Game (MCFG)

[Hawkeye7br]

About 30 years ago, I had a friend in Indy who did small construction, including roofing. He told me they found HUNDREDS of largely intact ricochet rounds on rooftops that were down range from MARCO (Marion County) as it used to be called. He was a silhouette shooter like me, I have no reason to refute his claims. Edge hits on steel that cleared the short backstops that were in place in that era.

 

[bgcatty]

Some idiots have to ruin something like this for all he rules abiding members. Management should oust the idiots.

 

[mike4]

Regarding energy retained after impact with steel, many years ago some visiting yahoos were apparently shooting at an old lawn mower exactly 3/4 mile west of my house, based on statements when I went down later to investigate with the renter at that house who was appropriately concerned about my report.

It looked like one round may have punched through the aluminum siding, and another round definitely went through my second story storm window and knocked a circle pattern out of the sash window glass. Bullet recovered, looked like it was probably 5.45x39mm. So the bullet was tumbling or otherwise lost a lot of energy, but managed to arc in to my second story over the top of a small barn from 1300 yards away.

Of course if you hit a proper steel target at close to 90 degrees you are generally going to deform the round a lot more and impair its aerodynamics, although impacts with steel can be pretty close to an elastic collision (a collision in which there is no net loss in kinetic energy in the system as a result of the collision).

 

[Cameramonkey]

Regarding energy retained after impact with steel, many years ago some visiting yahoos were apparently shooting at an old lawn mower exactly 3/4 mile west of my house, based on statements when I went down later to investigate with the renter at that house who was appropriately concerned about my report.

It looked like one round may have punched through the aluminum siding, and another round definitely went through my second story storm window and knocked a circle pattern out of the sash window glass. Bullet recovered, looked like it was probably 5.45x39mm. So the bullet was tumbling or otherwise lost a lot of energy, but managed to arc in to my second story over the top of a small barn from 1300 yards away.

Of course if you hit a proper steel target at close to 90 degrees you are generally going to deform the round a lot more and impair its aerodynamics, although impacts with steel can be pretty close to an elastic collision (a collision in which there is no net loss in kinetic energy in the system as a result of the collision).

With all due respect, can we stick to comparing apples to apples? Nobody is shooting lawnmowers at MCFG. Only the last paragraph is relevant to this issue.

 

[WebSnyper]

https://indyrange.net/steel/




Though doesn't make much sense to have the bays open for paper, if the concern is fill dirt for berms? But this notice I linked to doesn't mention the berms.

But this one does: https://indyrange.net/bays-closed-for-maintenance/ which is the one you referenced.

Glad I got to ping some steel last week at Proteq.

I think I misread the dates before. It looks like they suspended shooting steel on 3-Jun but I think the bays are completely closed as of 6-Jun.

That probably makes more sense.


This was the post from 6-Jun:

The Bays are closed for maintenance until further notice. We are working on getting clean fill dirt to repair the erosion of the berms in the bay.

• Contractor scheduled for 14 June to provide bid on repairing the berms.

 

[armalitesheepdog]

This is probably a stupid question but....
No FNS?

 

[Cameramonkey]

This is probably a stupid question but....
No FNS?

The announcement link says its still on.

Friday Night Steel at Marion County Fish and Game

F.N.S. This Friday at M.C.F.&.G. Please use the Practiscore link below to register. Set up at 5:00 help would be appreciated Sign in after set up Shooters meeting at 6:30 you must attend the meeting to shoot. Make sure you give yourself plenty of time to make the meeting. Please remember we...

www.indianagunowners.com

 

[BigRed]

This is probably a stupid question but....
No FNS?

Friday Night Steel at Marion County Fish and Game

F.N.S. This Friday at M.C.F.&.G. Please use the Practiscore link below to register. Set up at 5:00 help would be appreciated Sign in after set up Shooters meeting at 6:30 you must attend the meeting to shoot. Make sure you give yourself plenty of time to make the meeting. Please remember we...

www.indianagunowners.com

Still on...running outside of bays

 

[BigRed]

Jinx!

 

[chillidip1]

I believe the issue is the exposed rock/gravel in the eroded berms potentially causing a ricochet.

 

[WebSnyper]

Anybody been recently? I realize it is just the first week of July and that included a holiday, but was curious if anyone had seen any work start on the bays?

Looking like I'll have to head to Proteq tomorrow to ping some steel.

 

[1nderbeard]

Anybody been recently? I realize it is just the first week of July and that included a holiday, but was curious if anyone had seen any work start on the bays?

Looking like I'll have to head to Proteq tomorrow to ping some steel.

work supposed to have started this week. I wouldn't count on it being done tomorrow.

 

[WebSnyper]

work supposed to have started this week. I wouldn't count on it being done tomorrow.

Understood, was just curious if it started. Been down a month.

 

[1nderbeard]

Understood, was just curious if it started. Been down a month.

yeah. There was apparently a ricochet off a rock in the berms that came down and hit someone's car in the parking lot. That caused the shutdown.

 

[Vanderbilt]

....buddy of mine (now deceased) used to run the BP shoot....he said back then, 20some years ago that it wasn't unusual for ricoshets to be found outside the bounds of the range....

 

[ratames]

I took one of Coach's classes there and he cautioned us all about muzzle discipline and keeping the pistol aimed below the top of the berm. Apparently they've had rounds impact in the Speedway Kroger parking lot before.

 

[WebSnyper]

Website appears to have been updated today and indicates the following:

"The Bays are closed for maintenance until further notice. We are working on getting clean fill dirt to repair the erosion of the berms in the bay.

• Worked started on 7 July. Once we have a firm completion date it will be posted."

That said, I got out to Proteq today to shoot some steel and it was a good time. Just a bit of a drive.
Hoping MCF&G bays are up and running again soon as I'm starting to do some shooting with a red dot on a pistol and already know I was doing some things wrong (but at least everything on the new gun with the red dot was working well as was the gun with the red dot that I already have), and want to get more practice in soon.

 

[Bollorollo]

....buddy of mine (now deceased) used to run the BP shoot....he said back then, 20some years ago that it wasn't unusual for ricoshets to be found outside the bounds of the range....

You must be talking about Tim. I used to shot the BP event for a few years when Tim was running it and it was a good time. Tim was a very great shot and always did very well at the event..

 

[Vanderbilt]

You must be talking about Tim. I used to shot the BP event for a few years when Tim was running it and it was a good time. Tim was a very great shot and always did very well at the event..

....yessir.....Tim and I did a lot of reenactments together, in addition to a few late nites closing down buffets, Cracker Barrels and such......occasionally, I'd come up and shoot....wife still talks to his wife and we get together and have dinner.....he was a good friend.....

 

[cbhausen]

Website appears to have been updated today and indicates the following:

"The Bays are closed for maintenance until further notice. We are working on getting clean fill dirt to repair the erosion of the berms in the bay.

• Worked started on 7 July. Once we have a firm completion date it will be posted."

That said, I got out to Proteq today to shoot some steel and it was a good time. Just a bit of a drive.
Hoping MCF&G bays are up and running again soon as I'm starting to do some shooting with a red dot on a pistol and already know I was doing some things wrong (but at least everything on the new gun with the red dot was working well as was the gun with the red dot that I already have), and want to get more practice in soon.

I just went to the Marion County Fish and Game website and it looks like the pistol bays are open again:

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