Minn. Restaurant Charging Customers "Minimum Wage Fee"

[hoosierdoc]

Why not increase the minimum wage to $10,000 per minute, if numbers mean nothing, if devaluation and inflation mean nothing. Just pay everyone $600,000 per hour. Problem: solved.

Right on. $10/hr cannot support tobacco, alcohol, cell phones, cable, Internet, AND a family. Be decent and make it $50/hr. Show some compassion.

 

[88GT]

Oh. My. Gosh. They have to pay their employees $6.50/hr now instead of $2.13? The humanity. Well tripling the wages will have us paying $15 for a Big Mac and the economy will spiral out of control. Oh, 35 cents per check? Huh. So...what's the problem? If the market will bear it, they can pass that whopping 35 cents on to their customers as either a fee or as simply raising prices on a few items as non-attention seeking businesses will do. If the market won't bear it, than profits will be reduced or adjustments must be made to other costs or revenue streams.

If the market were a factor, we wouldn't be discussing MINIMUM WAGE LAWS.

 

[Doug B]

If the market were a factor, we wouldn't be discussing MINIMUM WAGE LAWS.

Amen brother. I dare say there hasn't been a free market economy in more than a hundred years.

 

[jamil]

Amen brother. I dare say there hasn't been a free market economy in more than a hundred years.

That would be sister actually.

 

[PRasko]

When they increased minimum wage to 15$ an hour in seattle, businesses started charging an 8 1/2% living wage tax.


This is nothing new.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Right on. $10/hr cannot support tobacco, alcohol, cell phones, cable, Internet, AND a family. Be decent and make it $50/hr. Show some compassion.

Only $50/hr, HoosierDoc? That's cold. Why stop there, when we have the power to make everyone millionaires and billionaires in no time? Do the right thing - make everyone in America a billionaire!

Human Action: A Treatise on Economics, by Ludwig von Mises : because apparently economics is hard.

 

[Oliver]

I hope everyone here recognizes the fact that NO server actually works for 2.13/hour. If that were the case then businesses wouldn't have to compensate servers when they make less than minimum wage/hour for a given amount of time. Sounds like some folks here are intensely against a free market where workers and business owners choose for themselves what they pay and work for. Personally, I've never listened to the government when it came time to decide what MY work was worth.

 

[stephen87]

Right on. $10/hr cannot support tobacco, alcohol, cell phones, cable, Internet, AND a family. Be decent and make it $50/hr. Show some compassion.

I would like to subscribe my employer to your newsletter. Where do I send the check?

 

[beararms1776]

I don't see what the issue is over $.35. Most people, if they look hard enough, can find that kind of change laying on the ground or in couch cushions or even in their car. What is it that people fear over 35 cents? It's not like the workers might go on a cruise or have something.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I don't see what the issue is over $.35. Most people, if they look hard enough, can find that kind of change laying on the ground or in couch cushions or even in their car. What is it that people fear over 35 cents? It's not like the workers might go on a cruise or have something.

Seriously? That's what they said about the original income tax. And the AMT was only going to apply to 30 families in the northeast. It's not the specific dollar amount, it's the fact they're forcing the business to spend more on wages at all. What if instead of minimum wage hike the state tossed a $200/day tax on all restaurants. It's probably about the same amount of money. Many restaunts don't have a spare $70k in the budget.

 

[Disposable Heart]

If they had any braincells, they would have just done a price increase, rather than singling themselves out and making a pointed issue by making it a separate line item. Dorks.

Worked with some minimum wage folks. Some were cool, but the ones who complained they didn't make enough were usually high school drop outs (Read: Didn't even finish high school), were former meth heads or smoked two packs a day. Quit smoking and you will save about $10 a day doofus.

 

[jamil]

If they had any braincells, they would have just done a price increase, rather than singling themselves out and making a pointed issue by making it a separate line item. Dorks.

I'm sure that's the idea, to make it a pointed issue. Rather than concealing the extra cost of labor in the pricing, they're specifying the cause of the price increase.

I wonder how many people will tip less knowing that they make minimum wage now? I wonder how many would tip at all if the minimum wage were $15/hr?

 

[eatsnopaste]

I've talked with several servers (those who do it to make a living, not college kids or a second job) and they would not want to give up tips for a minimum wage, they make more now! I asked a couple just the other night if they would give up tips for ten dollars an hour and they just laughed. I know what I tip and when they are my server they do well...

 

[Baditude]

Sure pay the wait staff minimum wage, then I don't need to tip any more

 

[billt]

Restaurants and bars have been getting away with ripping off employees for decades. They carved out a nice little 'exemption' for themselves by getting a law passed that the restaurant / bar owner should pay less than other businesses, because the employee has the opportunity to get tips. What a friggin' scam.

Restaurants and bars should be required to pay the SAME minimum wage as any other business. And in 2014, that should be +/- $15 / hr.

Personally, hope people stop patronizing Oasis Cafe, completely. THEN the owners will actually have something to 'cry about', LOL...

This is without question, the biggest load of anti capitalist crap I've come across in some time. Some of the highest paid women I've come across in my lifetime were waitresses and or bartenders. Many made more than degreed "professionals". These people are no different than any other profession. You have good ones who are go getters and hustlers with attractive, outgoing personalities, and who are very good at what they do. And you have bad ones. They either are lazy, or else don't have the personality or attitude for the job. Like most jobs, it's not the same for everyone, and neither should the pay be.

That is what tipping is for. Everyone has been exposed to a nice personable waitress who gives you really good service in a timely fashion. When I'm fortunate enough to get someone like that I will tip her accordingly. Usually far more than the standard 15%. By the same token, I've had really poor service from some waitresses and bartenders, and I will leave them much less. All based on their performance.

The only "scam" here is the one you've dreamed up in your head with all of your socialistic bull. No waitress or bartender works based on what their "salary" is. It won't pay for the gas or bus fare to get them to their job. They work for tips. The good ones get more, the bad ones get less. Just like pay on any other job. Trying to "level the playing field" won't work here any better than unions worked for the auto industry. All it does is guarantee good pay for lousy performance. And the consumer foots the bill in the process. If you doubt that go into a new car showroom. It's why the nice Silverado sitting on the showroom floor stickers out at $45,000, instead of the $20K it's actually worth. All your, "raise the pay" system would generate in the restaurant business is more of the same. People aren't ready to start paying $20.00 for a Denver Omelet at Denny's. At least not just yet. Give Obama and Reid another 2, 1/2 years and God only knows what's in store. You're a typical socialist. Big spender of other peoples money.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Burger with fries: $8.98

Coke: $1.75

Tip: $1.62

The feeling you get from passing judgement on another human being: Priceless

 

[steveh_131]

If the bill at a restaurant has minimum wage for my server factored into it, you can bet I won't be paying out 20% tips any more.

 

[billt]

If the bill at a restaurant has minimum wage for my server factored into it, you can bet I won't be paying out 20% tips any more.

Most people will react the exact same way. Which means the lazy, worthless employees will be paid the same as those who perform at a much higher standard. A typical socialists wet dream.

 

[Vigilant]

Had dinner at Outback last night, I asked the server what she thought about minimum wage being raised, and she replied "I hope not here, I would take a pay cut"! She claims to bring home $600 per week cash on average all the $2.13 does is cover her taxes, and that's how she likes it! So if you do the math, she brings home AFTER tax almost $30K where's the problem in that?

 

[jamil]

Had dinner at Outback last night, I asked the server what she thought about minimum wage being raised, and she replied "I hope not here, I would take a pay cut"! She claims to bring home $600 per week cash on average all the $2.13 does is cover her taxes, and that's how she likes it! So if you do the math, she brings home AFTER tax almost $30K where's the problem in that?

Bbbbut it's just not fair. The sucky service employees don't make as much in tips. Sucky employees are people too. They need government to force people to pay for their sucky service.