Next Battle Front: Taxes on Guns and Ammo

[Expat]

7 States are looking at creating taxes on guns and ammunition. The Democrats in Washington are looking to do the same. The GOP House is going to try to pass a bill that will try to prevent even state taxes based upon the Commerce Clause.

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The Democrats still want your guns and aren't giving up any time soon.

 

[Armed-N-Ready]

If they can't take your guns, they'll come after the bullets.

 

[brotherbill3]

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr2361

go tell them to vote for this.

 

[Expat]

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr2361

go tell them to vote for this.

Thanks Bill, done.

 

[Mark 1911]

Seems like these politicians crave the taste of political defeat. It's up to the people in these states to get mad enough to vote these idiots out.

 

[KG1]

This is just an example that one of the functions of imposing taxes are as a tool used to control. Why do people wonder why there are no serious efforts made concerning tax reform and simplification?

Answer: Taxes=Control.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Seems like these politicians crave the taste of political defeat. It's up to the people in these states to get mad enough to vote these idiots out.

Agreed. "They" voted these clowns in, let them enjoy the show and quit running to the federal government to fix their screw ups.

 

[jwh20]

It's an interesting idea but I believe that even if passed, an argument using the SCOTUS decision on Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections would be a viable option.

In Harper the court held that a poll tax (i.e. the exercise of a right) was in violation of the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause since the tax unfairly limited poll access to those of lower economic status. Similarly a tax on firearms or ammunition could also be argued to be discriminatory in the same way.

But we all know they will try anything, legal or not, to ban guns.

 

[MisterChester]

It's an interesting idea but I believe that even if passed, an argument using the SCOTUS decision on Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections would be a viable option.

In Harper the court held that a poll tax (i.e. the exercise of a right) was in violation of the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause since the tax unfairly limited poll access to those of lower economic status. Similarly a tax on firearms or ammunition could also be argued to be discriminatory in the same way.

But we all know they will try anything, legal or not, to ban guns.

If they want to get really technical, they could argue they can tax ammunition because ammunition is not mentioned in the 2nd amendment, only "arms". I don't see this happening but if it went that far I wouldn't be totally shocked.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

It's an interesting idea but I believe that even if passed, an argument using the SCOTUS decision on Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections would be a viable option.

In Harper the court held that a poll tax (i.e. the exercise of a right) was in violation of the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause since the tax unfairly limited poll access to those of lower economic status. Similarly a tax on firearms or ammunition could also be argued to be discriminatory in the same way.

But we all know they will try anything, legal or not, to ban guns.

If that were true, then all fees associated with obtaining a LTCH or CCW, sales taxes on ammo and guns, etc. would have been thrown out long ago, no?

 

[87iroc]

Can we tax those that apply for welfare? Maybe charge them a 25 dollar application fee?

 

[CathyInBlue]

Are the Leftists talking about just hiking the sales tax on FAFA (Firearms, Ammunition, and Firearm Accessories), or are they actually getting ballsy enough to demand an annual excise tax for the privilege of being allowed to maintain possession thereof?

 

[brotherbill3]

If they want to get really technical, they could argue they can tax ammunition because ammunition is not mentioned in the 2nd amendment, only "arms". I don't see this happening but if it went that far I wouldn't be totally shocked.

After my first Appleseed - I would have to say that "ARMS" includes the ammunition - if you haven't been to one; go and learn a bit more about patriots day and what lead up to it; ... and what the interpretation of Arms was then. ...

 

[SmileDocHill]

This is why you hear on NPR them subtly mention ammunition as inexpensive and even say ~"often less than a dollar a bullet". They are conditioning non gun people so when they start talking about adding taxes to ammo they will be less than sympathetic when we get vocal about the outrageous prices.

 

[Expat]

Are the Leftists talking about just hiking the sales tax on FAFA (Firearms, Ammunition, and Firearm Accessories), or are they actually getting ballsy enough to demand an annual excise tax for the privilege of being allowed to maintain possession thereof?

I guess it would be a sales tax as (at least the ones they were talking about) it was a one time additional tax at point sale. I think they mentioned on guns 10-25%. Ammo was all over the place, even a dollar a round. Imagine buying a promo pack of .22 LR at that price.

 

[Bushido Devil Dog]

"The power to tax is the power to destroy." - some long-dead white guy...

 

[TEK]

the old metzenbaum plan

 

[Lucas156]

Tax away...I can barely afford ammo as it is...raising a family and all. ****in bastards