Obama sets his sights to destroy Amish.

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

I am surprised to actually see Obama targetting the Amish. A people's who is relatively low impact, upon the earth, compared to Obama himself.

The Obama administration has developed a keen interest in the Amish folks of Lancaster County, Pa., due to their lifestyle and not their carbon footprint. The cattle on their dairy farms produce milk and manure.


It is claimed that great piles of manure are the source of pollutants from Lancaster County to the Chesapeake Bay due to run-off from heavy rains. Lancaster County is far from the Chesapeake Bay.



Agents have been dispatched to "educate" the Amish in methods the Obama administration requires for lifestyle changes. They use no electricity and few automobiles, so how dare they live without government assistance?


There is no information given on how the administration determined their manure was the particular pollutant.
How was that particular pollutant identified after being mixed with waters of the Potomac, which also carries runoff from Washington, D.C.?



Is this an attempt to blame the Amish for the pollution caused by all the "BS" in Washington, D.C., or is this just the result of the president's search for an ass to kick?



The Amish run afoul of Obama regulators?  - Opinion - Charleston Daily Mail - West Virginia News and Sports -

Nothing more than Obama being shown for the truly Anti-Christian, Anti-White bigot kenyan he is.

 

[indykid]

So between cows belching "global warming" burps, and now their excrement is polluting the water hundreds of miles away, I think it is time obama-messiah actually passed an executive order banning cows and ordering the slaughter of all animals that poop!

 

[Joe Williams]

This just in.... animals harmful to nature!!

 

[Colt556]

Well if anyone knows how to spread manure it's Obamination!

 

[Expat]

Huh, with the no electricity, no automobiles thing going on, they should be earning enough carbon credits to more than make up for the carbon debits from the runoff. Where's Algore and his lockbox...

 

[jclark]

Maybe the gubberment can charge the Amish with a poop tax. That way the Amish can also help support Obama's welfare army!

 

[lovemachine]

That's going to far. But, I don't know what to make of this. The largest farmer in my area, I kid you not he's a millionaire. He's in trouble with the EPA because he has so many cows, their poop is running into this large creek and contaminating it.

 

[mrjarrell]

That's going to far. But, I don't know what to make of this. The largest farmer in my area, I kid you not he's a millionaire. He's in trouble with the EPA because he has so many cows, their poop is running into this large creek and contaminating it.

It's the same deal with the Amish farms. They have loads of cows and don't do anything to control manure runoff. It's contaminating the water supply and the water table. How's that a good or allowable thing? Their practices are doing harm to people outside of their property and they need to clean up their act. This isn't a matter of persecution.

 

[Turn Key]

Takin' on the Buggy Whippers.

Priceless.


TK

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

It's the same deal with the Amish farms. They have loads of cows and don't do anything to control manure runoff. It's contaminating the water supply and the water table. How's that a good or allowable thing? Their practices are doing harm to people outside of their property and they need to clean up their act. This isn't a matter of persecution.

I'll call bs. Just be the Kenyan has proven so many times prior how he's an anti-Christian, anti-White.

Al Gore, never to my knowledge set out to attack the Amish.

Instead of attacking the Amish, Obama could ban Oil, driving, flying. He has ZERO RIGHTS to tell those people how to live, as they have been doing it since they have here.

This is an attack. Furthermore, I've NEVER heard of all this harm the Amish do, until Obama.

 

[mrjarrell]

That's because you're ignorant and a racist.
Let's take another look at the story from a different source. Hmm?

via The NYT

But farmers like Mr. Stoltzfus are facing growing scrutiny for agricultural practices that the federal government sees as environmentally destructive. Their cows generate heaps of manure that easily washes into streams and flows onward into the Chesapeake Bay.
And the Environmental Protection Agency, charged by President Obama with restoring the bay to health, is determined to crack down. The farmers have a choice: change the way they farm or face stiff penalties.
“There’s much, much work that needs to be done, and I don’t think the full community understands,” said David McGuigan, the E.P.A. official leading an effort by the agency to change farming practices here in Lancaster County.
Runoff from manure and synthetic fertilizers has polluted the Chesapeake Bay for years, reducing oxygen rates, killing fish and creating a dead zone that has persisted since the 1970s despite off-and-on cleanup efforts. But of the dozens of counties that contribute to the deadly runoff of nitrogen and phosphorus, Lancaster ranks at the top. According to E.P.A. data from 2007, the most recent available, the county generates more than 61 million pounds of manure a year. That is 20 million pounds more than the next highest county on the list of bay polluters, and more than six times that of most other counties.
The challenge for the environmental agency is to steer the farmers toward new practices without stirring resentment that might cause a backlash. The so-called plain-sect families — Amish and Old Order Mennonites, descended from persecuted Anabaptists who fled Germany and Switzerland in the 1700s — are notoriously wary of outsiders and of the government in particular.
“They are very resistant to government interference, and they object to government subsidies,” said Donald Kraybill, a professor at Elizabethtown College who studies the Amish. “They feel they should take care of their own.”
But the focus on the plain-sect dairy farmers is unavoidable: they own more than 50 percent of Lancaster County’s 5,000-plus farms.
“It’s been an issue over the last 30 years,” Dr. Kraybill said. “We have too many animals here per square acre — too many cows for too few acres.”
For now, the environmental agency’s strategy is to approach each farmer individually in collaboration with state and local conservation officials and suggest improvements like fences to prevent livestock from drifting toward streams, buffers that reduce runoff and pits to keep manure stored safely.
“These are real people with their own histories and their own needs and their own culture,” said John Hanger, the secretary of environmental protection in Pennsylvania. “It’s about treating people right, and in order to treat people right, you’ve got to be able to start where they are at.”
But if that does not work, the government will have to resort to fines and penalties.

It's bad when mega farms do the same thing with artificial fertilisers, too. Hell, the government is going out of their way, at this point, to be nice about it. The only persecution here is in your stunted mind.

 

[Joe Williams]

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This isn't a matter of persecution.

It usually isn't, when they are going after people you disagree with. Then it's righteous government action, not big government run amok butting into something the states should handle if need be. Not a matter of violating the First Amendment, a matter of government whipping outsiders into line.

Funny how malleable an anarchist's standards become regarding government action when they agree with it.

 

[jclark]

The runoff from cow crap is gonna kill us? What about the runoff from all the Blacktop roads?

What about the 10 gazillion gallons of Oil that is flowing in the friggin' Ocean?
Let's not take on big oil...let's pick on some backwards hillbilly Amish.
Some of you have your head so far up Obama's butt, you can touch his prostate with your nose.

 

[lovemachine]

The runoff from cow crap is gonna kill us? What about the runoff from all the Blacktop roads?

What about the 10 gazillion gallons of Oil that is flowing in the friggin' Ocean?
Let's not take on big oil...let's pick on some backwards hillbilly Amish.
Some of you have your head so far up Obama's butt, you can touch his prostate with your nose.

I dunno, a lot of them live better than we do. AND have more money than all of us.

 

[mrjarrell]

The runoff from cow crap is gonna kill us? What about the runoff from all the Blacktop roads?

What about the 10 gazillion gallons of Oil that is flowing in the friggin' Ocean?
Let's not take on big oil...let's pick on some backwards hillbilly Amish.
Some of you have your head so far up Obama's butt, you can touch his prostate with your nose.

Nope. It's not going to kill YOU. You don't have a well in that water table or live downstream of all that cow crap. It's killing the fish downstream in the Chesapeake Bay and putting a lot of fishermen out of work. Would the Amish be better off if they were just sued out of existence by the people they're harming with their bad farming practices? Pig farms in Indiana have to control their manure to protect the watershed, why should the Amish be any different?

 

[RockCreekRelics]

In related news... nothing is being done about the runoff from the massive heaps of crap in D.C. that continue to pollute the nation from coast to coast.

 

[Turn Key]

I dunno, a lot of them live better than we do. AND have more money than all of us.

And the payed off land deeds to prove it!


TK

 

[mrjarrell]

It usually isn't, when they are going after people you disagree with. Then it's righteous government action, not big government run amok butting into something the states should handle if need be. Not a matter of violating the First Amendment, a matter of government whipping outsiders into line.

Funny how malleable an anarchist's standards become regarding government action when they agree with it.

Protecting the property rights of others is one the arguably few things government should be allowed to do. Protecting the watershed falls in that area. Unless you think that people should have to drink sh*t laden water? Or see their livelihoods as fishermen die off due to that pollution? Sorry, Josephine. You can unbunch you hysterical panties now.

 

[infidel]

They either need to clean it up and pay for their **** up, or get big fines.

That's not being good tenants of the land, and if there's anything farmers should pride themselves in, its that.

There is a hog farm a couple miles from my house that over the years repeatedly dumped vast amounts of manure into Sugar Creek simply because of poor management. They got fines each time, and the last time, they were forced to sell the farm. Got what they deserved.

We've got about 6000 head of hogs on our farm and am glad to say we have never had a spill

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

Edit:

No need to entertain the rocket scientist of INGO.