Ok this got my attention!

[wcd]

45 acp +P 78 grain that claims 1900 fps velocity. I believe Civil Defense put it out there. Anyone have any experience with it?

thanks

 

[indyjohn]

45 acp +P 78 grain that claims 1900 fps velocity. I believe Civil Defense put it out there. Anyone have any experience with it?

thanks

Link? A 230 gr pill at that velocity would generate a lot of kinetic energy. And a lot of pressure.

 

[wcd]

Link? A 230 gr pill at that velocity would generate a lot of kinetic energy. And a lot of pressure.

Liberty Ammunition Civil Defense .45 ACP +P 78 Grain Hollow Point Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition LA-CD-45-013 Caliber: .45 ACP +P, Number​

from Optics planet

tempted to order a box just to see.

 

[deo62]

78 gr solid copper hollow point, hmmm

 

[wcd]

78 gr solid copper hollow point, hmmm

?

 

[wcd]

Link? A 230 gr pill at that velocity would generate a lot of kinetic energy. And a lot of pressure.

Believe it said 600 pounds again trust but verify.

 

[ditcherman]

45 acp +P 78 grain that claims 1900 fps velocity. I believe Civil Defense put it out there. Anyone have any experience with it?

thanks

I've shot a few boxes of them and a few more of the 50 grain 9mm rated at 2000 fps.
I'm kinda a believer in a high speed round, just from messing with 5.7x28.
So, no real data or anything, can conform they do exist and they do shoot...

 

[deo62]

Did I read their description wrong? 78 gr copper monolithic nickel plated

 

[ditcherman]

I can tell you the hollow point is deeeeep.

 

[deo62]

Shot quite a bit of the underwood liteweight high speed 10mm but honestly never gave anything but 230 gr 45 a thought

 

[wcd]

I've shot a few boxes of them and a few more of the 50 grain 9mm rated at 2000 fps.
I'm kinda a believer in a high speed round, just from messing with 5.7x28.
So, no real data or anything, can conform they do exist and they do shoot...

I have heard they stay together! So I am going to go out on a limb and say they are fairly barrier blind?

 

[wcd]

Did I read their description wrong? 78 gr copper monolithic nickel plated

I believe you are correct.

 

[Leadeye]

Sounds like that old French Arcane ammo.