Police shoot unarmed suspects 137 times after pursuit in East Cleveland; 2 dead

[rambone]

Two unarmed suspects were slain by police officers after a 25-minute pursuit. At the conclusion of the chase, which may have included up to 50 police vehicles, 13 officers drew their weapons and unloaded at least 137 rounds in to the suspects' Chevy Malibu. No weapons were found, and there was no evidence of return fire. The police were so violent and so reckless that they even shot up their own cruisers with friendly fire.



Cleveland, East Cleveland officials seek answers after police chase ends with 13 officers firing 137 shots, 2 people dead

East Cleveland chief: No weapon found in chase suspects' car, no evidence of shootout

East Cleveland: Rapid fire lasts longer then 20 seconds

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[sepe]

Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[Bert]

but they hit 2 suspects . thats gun control

 

[radonc73]

I have no doubt it will be a good shooting.

 

[45calibre]

book em' lou

 

[moosebag]

 

[mrjarrell]

A little bird told me that we haven't heard the whole story here.

 

[sepe]

A little bird told me that we haven't heard the whole story here.

Did you happen to unload 137 rounds at that little bird? You know, thinking of the children...

 

[Classic]

The department will, of course, conduct an INTERNAL investigation.

 

[gunman41mag]

What a freaking waste of ammo

 

[TiminMishawaka]

"Police said the chase began because the two had shot at a police officer"

"Spotts said that the chase ended in a dead end with a head-on collision with a police car."

Sounds to me like the police chase started and ended with illegal, potentially lethal activity by the suspects. I'll way for the whole story to come out.

 

[hornadylnl]

"Police said the chase began because the two had shot at a police officer"

"Spotts said that the chase ended in a dead end with a head-on collision with a police car."

Sounds to me like the police chase started and ended with illegal, potentially lethal activity by the suspects. I'll way for the whole story to come out.

And no gun or shell casings were found in the suspects car. What could possibly justify them shooting 137 times?

 

[TiminMishawaka]

And no gun or shell casings were found in the suspects car. What could possibly justify them shooting 137 times?

Revolvers spit casings?

13 people firing = 10 rounds per person. Change your statement to what could possibly justify someone shooting 10 times? How about every defensive handgun course taught these days?

 

[phylodog]

Just a couple of thoughts:

1. Someone doesn't have to be armed to be lawfully shot by the police.

2. Deadly force is deadly force whether it be 137 rounds fired, being run over by a car, kicking someone off the roof of a building or tearing their arm off and beating them to death with it.

3. There is no such thing as excessive deadly force or too much deadly force. The only question is if deadly force was reasonable given the circumstances. That answer comes in the form of a yes or a no.

 

[hornadylnl]

Revolvers spit casings?

13 people firing = 10 rounds per person. Change your statement to what could possibly justify someone shooting 10 times? How about every defensive handgun course taught these days?

Could have been a revolver. There's speculation that the gun was tossed during the chase but no mention of it being recovered. I'd like to see how many things around there are riddled with those 137 rounds.

 

[sepe]

Just a couple of thoughts:

1. Someone doesn't have to be armed to be lawfully shot by the police.

2. Deadly force is deadly force whether it be 137 rounds fired, being run over by a car, kicking someone off the roof of a building or tearing their arm off and beating them to death with it.

3. There is no such thing as excessive deadly force or too much deadly force. The only question is if deadly force was reasonable given the circumstances. That answer comes in the form of a yes or a no.

I'd say it might be reaching the point of excessive when you're almost shooting each other while putting rounds into the bad guy. Might just be me but I never thought it was a great idea to circle the wagons and then open up.

 

[Bunnykid68]

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[phylodog]

I'd say it might be reaching the point of excessive when you're almost shooting each other while putting rounds into the bad guy. Might just be me but I never thought it was a great idea to circle the wagons and then open up.

I definitely agree that getting into a crossfire situation is tactically flawed but that has no bearing on the reasonableness of the force used.

 

[hornadylnl]

Sounds like they need some turret mounted mini guns.

 

[Classic]

Or maybe a drone strike.