We went from 1200 to 2800$ in 4 years. Morgan township here. Just south of you!I went from 3800 per year to 5200 because of Washington Township resolution.
Really? You don't get it at all. So property taxes are the lowest...big freaking deal. Your property worth 5 years ago was worth $600 a year in taxes...but your ok with taxes so we know that. They can't raise taxes....woopy....then the county wants more $$$ for their projects but can't raise taxes that you love, because those really smart politicians were ahead of the game and put a cap on taxes...cause you know, politicians are so smart here. You loved the mask mandates and jabs I'm sure right? So they can't raise taxes to get more $$$.So politicians get someone to pay $185k to jack your tax assessment?
Really? Indiana property taxes are lower than most as mentioned in several posts in this thread. There are plenty of reasons they suck but property taxes are not one IMHO.
Wow!
you just said the "trash house across the street just sold for $185k". How did the county assessor make someone buy it at that price if the buyer didn't think it was worth it? That's where your logic fails.Really? You don't get it at all. So property taxes are the lowest...big freaking deal. Your property worth 5 years ago was worth $600 a year in taxes...but your ok with taxes so we know that. They can't raise taxes....woopy....then the county wants more $$$ for their projects but can't raise taxes that you love, because those really smart politicians were ahead of the game and put a cap on taxes...cause you know, politicians are so smart here. You loved the mask mandates and jabs I'm sure right? So they can't raise taxes to get more $$$.
So they raise property values, because the "smart" politicians never saw that coming. So they say your value is now higher so now your TAX cap is now worthless! Now your paying $3000 in taxes for the same property you own.
So the poor old guy that had a stroke, living on a fixed income because 30 years ago his property tax was $500 and he could always afford that. Is now told his property is now worth several times what he paid for it and has to pay over $3000 a year, and thats $2500 more than he has.
and of course you have to either sell, find a way to pay, or not pay, in which these greta politicians allow the Sheriff to come take your property and sell it....because you know....you NEVER really owned it to begin with. Brilliant.
Sure glad you understand why this is all OK. And you think this make America Great? Brilliant.
TL summary: "From each according to ability, to each according to need".Really? You don't get it at all. So property taxes are the lowest...big freaking deal. Your property worth 5 years ago was worth $600 a year in taxes...but your ok with taxes so we know that. They can't raise taxes....woopy....then the county wants more $$$ for their projects but can't raise taxes that you love, because those really smart politicians were ahead of the game and put a cap on taxes...cause you know, politicians are so smart here. You loved the mask mandates and jabs I'm sure right? So they can't raise taxes to get more $$$.
So they raise property values, because the "smart" politicians never saw that coming. So they say your value is now higher so now your TAX cap is now worthless! Now your paying $3000 in taxes for the same property you own.
So the poor old guy that had a stroke, living on a fixed income because 30 years ago his property tax was $500 and he could always afford that. Is now told his property is now worth several times what he paid for it and has to pay over $3000 a year, and thats $2500 more than he has.
and of course you have to either sell, find a way to pay, or not pay, in which these greta politicians allow the Sheriff to come take your property and sell it....because you know....you NEVER really owned it to begin with. Brilliant.
Sure glad you understand why this is all OK. And you think this make America Great? Brilliant.
They have to have a minimum base to draw from. I have no idea what that is, but I’m sure it is more than we have here. I agree it should be restricted to your local market. Annually I can live here for almost half that it would cost to live in Lafayette. Property assess should reflect that.Are you in either of those counties? I didn’t know they could cross county lines for similar homes…
I'm sure. I went with my buddy to the assessor's office. They told him they couldn't determine usable/unusable on his pool and to fill it in, and we both understand the logic. What threw us was taxing the sidewalk.Are you sure about that? If used for personal / residential purposes, they should still be part of the homestead exemption. (Though if you're running a business out of them, they can be taxed up to 3%.) See https://www.in.gov/dlgf/files/2023-presentation/231011-Thuma-Presentation-Deductions-Overview.pdf. Also see this court case: SCHIFFLER v. MARION CO. ASSESSOR
Stop right now with the personal attacks. If you cannot discuss this rationally then get out of the conversation.Really? You don't get it at all. So property taxes are the lowest...big freaking deal. Your property worth 5 years ago was worth $600 a year in taxes...but your ok with taxes so we know that. They can't raise taxes....woopy....then the county wants more $$$ for their projects but can't raise taxes that you love, because those really smart politicians were ahead of the game and put a cap on taxes...cause you know, politicians are so smart here. You loved the mask mandates and jabs I'm sure right? So they can't raise taxes to get more $$$.
So they raise property values, because the "smart" politicians never saw that coming. So they say your value is now higher so now your TAX cap is now worthless! Now your paying $3000 in taxes for the same property you own.
So the poor old guy that had a stroke, living on a fixed income because 30 years ago his property tax was $500 and he could always afford that. Is now told his property is now worth several times what he paid for it and has to pay over $3000 a year, and thats $2500 more than he has.
and of course you have to either sell, find a way to pay, or not pay, in which these greta politicians allow the Sheriff to come take your property and sell it....because you know....you NEVER really owned it to begin with. Brilliant.
Sure glad you understand why this is all OK. And you think this make America Great? Brilliant.
"If you drive a car, I'll tax the streetThese bastards taxed my fire-pit! And added improvements due some BS info they pulled from zillow! My house is worth maybe 10k more market then assessed.
Then these pricks wont let you appeal online anymore! You have to print and mail it in! Porter county sucks! I will be moving south here shortly!
Is it a permanent improvement? It is all spelled out in the codes. So if we didn’t tax a 4’ fire pit, at what point do we start? Next thing you know some wealthy owner has a three bedroom, three bath, carriage house he calls a “fire pit”. The fairest way is to tax them all.These bastards taxed my fire-pit!
In Indiana the counties exchange data with the area real estate boards.And added improvements due some BS info they pulled from zillow!
So they could charge you more.My house is worth maybe 10k more market then assessed.
Sounds like Porter county voters need to elect a better assessor.Then these pricks wont let you appeal online anymore! You have to print and mail it in! Porter county sucks!
There are no utopian areas anywhere, some counties are competent others are not.I will be moving south here shortly!
They demolished a land mark flower shop called Flower's by Dewey. Dewey was a veteran. They forced them to sell so they could make a parking lot for this new Government motricity so the Judges would not need to walk too far to their carsIf you haven't got your bill yet, look it up.
Mine increased by over $5,000 per year! (3 properties)
I have seen people loose their homes due to property taxes in the past, it will be happening again.
EVERYONE NEEDS PRIMARIED AND VOTED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Morgan Co population increased less than 8% in the 20 years from 2002 to 2022, yet VICKIE KIVETT stated in her campaign propaganda mail that they were really focused on the "MUCH NEEDED" Morgan Co Judicial Campus (among other non-truths)
Last time I went through the Annex building, seems that I remember empty space that was not being used.
Names on the sign;
Kenny Hale (I have experienced dishonesty from him personally)
Bryan Collier
Don Adams
Chip Keller
Melissa Greene
Brian Culp
Troy Sprinkle
Kim Merideth
Vickie Kivett
Jason Maxwell
Josh Messmer
Curious how much this abomination is costing the taxpayers:
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It's a hold out from feudal times where the lord could throw you off "his" land for not paying your tribute (the more things change...). Property taxes are evil, and should be abolished.It has been my personal belief for years that property taxes are immoral.
While, ideally, it would also involve spending cuts — especially in unnecessary boondoggles such as the one with which this thread started — I realize that's about as likely as me flying to the moon because I had chili for dinner.So no one wants to take a swing at the hard questions?
Yep. Govt needs the shrink. The whole how well we fund schools ,police etc is getting old. We can fund them but don't have to make it to where they get pampered. Schools don't need bright shiny stadiums or theaters. County jails don't need giant law enforcement centers. Hell here in Jefferson co our jail wasnt 17 years old since it was redone.. so what do we do. We build another brand new jail thats also a law enforcement center With a additional payroll tax from county. Now they want their own shooting range cause I guess they don't like using the city's shooting range once a year. Cut the govt. Cut the property tax.While, ideally, it would also involve spending cuts — especially in unnecessary boondoggles such as the one with which this thread started — I realize that's about as likely as me flying to the moon because I had chili for dinner.
The answer is not easy to make happen, but it is rather simple.
Shift it to other taxes. Everything you mentioned (schools, police & fire protection, county offices, etc.) is of similar benefit to every property and person living in or business domiciled in a political subdivision.
None of it has to be funded by a means that can result in homelessness. That's just the way it has always been.
At one point, having a king was the way it had always been; that didn't make it any more right.
The only fair amount for property taxes is $0.
To add insult to injury, I just looked at the duplex next door. It is a mirror image of mine with some minor differences. Overall the differences cancel each other out.My assessment on the land was unchanged, the improvements increased 92%.The total assessment is +/-60% higher than the market value. I filed an appeal in April of 2023. It is still sitting in a pile waiting to be looked at. I live in a duplex. I pulled every sale of duplexes in my township from the market period on which the assessment is based. My assessment per square foot is 72% higher than the highest sale. I plan to got down to the Assessor's office next week and politely destroy them by demonstrating their incompetence.