Protest the President lose your LTCH????

[AndersonIN]

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Felony charges can be filed if you protest around the Secret Service!!! HR 347

Is this UNREAL???
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[ATOMonkey]

Didn't you get the memo? Politicians are of a higher class than we serfs. They can't be bothered with our constant complaining and whining.

 

[rambone]

It passed the House 399-3.

Ron Paul and Justin Amash voted no.

Incidentally Ron Paul also declined to have the SS trail him around during his campaign.

 

[Pocketman]

It passed the House 399-3.

Ron Paul and Justin Amash voted no.

Incidentally Ron Paul also declined to have the SS trail him around during his campaign.

Yes sir! Our Republican controlled House is looking out for our rights.

 

[JettaKnight]

I'll form my own opinion w/o FauxNews

Did anyone bother to read the bill? This isn't about simple protest, it's about deliberate disruption and violence and only within restricted government buildings.It's rather bland and basic.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr347enr.pdf

Go ahead, tell me how I'm wrong and naive.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

Yes sir! Our Republican controlled House is looking out for our rights.

You are looking at it wrong. Sometimes it is about trading votes on issues to secure or block another item. Maybe they traded the Yes votes on this so they weren't forced to lose a vote on the Democratic sponsored bill for Jus Primae Noctis.

 

[JettaKnight]

It passed the House 399-3.

Ron Paul and Justin Amash voted no.

Incidentally Ron Paul also declined to have the SS trail him around during his campaign.

Of course Ron voted no. He knows is a common sense bill, he knows it will pass just fine so he can safety vote no. Now he's going to use this to differentiate himself from the pack.

"I'm Ron Paul, and all the other politicians want to lock you up, blah, blah, blah."

 

[Pocketman]

You are looking at it wrong. Sometimes it is about trading votes on issues to secure or block another item. Maybe they traded the Yes votes on this so they weren't forced to lose a vote on the Democratic sponsored bill for Jus Primae Noctis.

Apparently you are not familiar with H.R. 347.

 

[J_Wales]

Though the bill would have little impact on me (I would not want to be anywhere near that sonofa***** fearless leader), the bill is nonetheless bull****.

Can we please cleanse the central state is statist pigs?

 

[netsecurity]

I have my own opinion on this bill. I think the only reason the Republicans let it go through, is because they know that hard working Americans rarely protest, and that the jobless dope head hippies are the ones who will most likely be stifled by this bill.

 

[JettaKnight]

This isn't about protesting - it's about occupying. There's a big difference between a protected protest and sabotage though occupation.

Now if we want to discuss the need to make it a felony, I'm up for that.

 

[jgreiner]

I'll form my own opinion w/o FauxNews

By watching MSDNC? Or CNN? LOL....good luck with that.....

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

Of course Ron voted no. He knows is a common sense bill, he knows it will pass just fine so he can safety vote no. Now he's going to use this to differentiate himself from the pack.

"I'm Ron Paul and, unlike other politicians, I don't believe in creating a bunch of nonsense "bland and basic" laws that end up being used to over charge people with crime. Protest at a temporarily magical location and don't leave when first asked, you qualify for federal charges instead of a misdemeanor trespassing charge... Use a bull horn outside but near temporarily magical location, you qualify for federal charges instead of a noise violation or disturbing the peace charge... Too many of you on the sidewalk in front of temporarily magical location, you qualify for federal charges instead of a misdemeanor obstructing a sidewalk charge..."

Fixed it.

knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so;

engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions;

knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted building or grounds;

 

[Ted]

Since when has passive civil disobedience been considered felonious?

 

[JettaKnight]

This is the current law:

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person or group of persons— (1) willfully and knowingly to enter or remain in any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting;
(2) willfully and knowingly to enter or remain in any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance;
(3) willfully, knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, to engage in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to, any building or grounds described in paragraph (1) or (2) when, or so that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions;
(4) willfully and knowingly to obstruct or impede ingress or egress to or from any building, grounds, or area described in paragraph (1) or (2); or
(5) willfully and knowingly to engage in any act of physical violence against any person or property in any building, grounds, or area described in paragraph (1) or (2).
(b) Violation of this section, and attempts or conspiracies to commit such violations, shall be punishable by— (1) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 10 years, or both, if— (A) the person, during and in relation to the offense, uses or carries a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm; or
(B) the offense results in significant bodily injury as defined by section 2118 (e)(3); and

(2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, in any other case.

(c) Violation of this section, and attempts or conspiracies to commit such violations, shall be prosecuted by the United States attorney in the Federal district court having jurisdiction of the place where the offense occurred.
(d) None of the laws of the United States or of the several States and the District of Columbia shall be superseded by this section.
(e) As used in this section, the term “other person protected by the Secret Service” means any person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title when such person has not declined such protection.

 

[JettaKnight]

This is the proposed change:

(a) Whoever—
‘(1) knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so;
(2) knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions;
(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted building or grounds; or
(4) knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property in any restricted building or grounds; or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

(b) The punishment for a violation of subsection (a) is—
(1) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more
than 10 years, or both, if—
(A) the person, during and in relation to the offense, uses or carries a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm;
or
(B) the offense results in significant bodily injury as defined by section 2118(e)(3); and
(2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than one year, or both,

(c) In this section—
(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area—
(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds;
(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or
(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance; and
(2) the term ‘other person protected by the Secret Service’ means any person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined
such protection.

 

[Ted]

Yeah? And?

The Secret Service can just arbitrarily and unilaterally declare any area as restricted.....and doesn't even have to tell anybody about it before hand.

 

[JettaKnight]

So, the law is already on the books (Faux News didn't report that!). And maybe y'all are better at the Where's Waldo books, but I don't see a big difference between old (current) and new (the new evil law that our savior Ron Paul tried to stop and will be used to strip us of our rights).

 

[JettaKnight]

Yeah? And?

The Secret Service can just arbitrarily and unilaterally declare any area as restricted.....and doesn't even have to tell anybody about it before hand.

Do you have any facts to back up your statement?

 

[JettaKnight]

By watching MSDNC? Or CNN? LOL....good luck with that.....

Agreed - those outlets are far worse. Honestly, I avoid all of them. I get my facts and news here!