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[KG1]

Gotcha, I'm caught up now

He's also the one suggesting that "just because the LEO does'nt know you" is sufficient RAS to confiscate under "officer safety".

It's upthread too but i'm not gonna go back and find it.

 

[atvdave]

Cant seem to find that on mine. Maybe I got a special one.

I don't see it either.. Even on the full page....

 

[2A_Tom]

His point is the phrase lawfully owned jeans that LEO can run any hand gun at any time.

 

[ilitical]

His point is the phrase lawfully owned jeans that LEO can run any hand gun at any time.

yes, that is my point

 

[KG1]

You mean to tell me that just because an officer "doesn't know you" is not enough RAS to take possession of your firearm?

All this "officer safety" confiscation doesn't matter. He can still take possession of your firearm to check and see if it is "legally possessed."

Says so right on the LTCH you signed.

Just for clarification purposes these two posts were sarcasm related to a discussion upthread.

 

[ilitical]

Just for clarification purposes these two posts were sarcasm related to a discussion upthread.

I had to change clothes! They were soaked in sarcasm!

 

[Roadie]

He's also the one suggesting that "just because the LEO does'nt know you" is sufficient RAS to confiscate under "officer safety".

It's upthread too but i'm not gonna go back and find it.

Makes perfect sense, that would give LEOs RAS for just about everyone they meet then.. :\

 

[ATM]

yes, that is my point

You haven't given any support for holding such an opinion, is it something you just randomly adopted?

 

[Bunnykid68]

You haven't given any support for holding such an opinion, is it something you just randomly adopted?

YES, but he has 50 now, let us see where this goes

 

[VUPDblue]

Shenanigans. Its illegal to possess any stolen property. That doesn't give LE carte blanche to stop everyone walking on the sidewalk and run the serial numbers on their phone or iPods.

 

[ilitical]

You haven't given any support for holding such an opinion, is it something you just randomly adopted?

Oh, so you think opinion is your ally? But you were merely adopted by opinions. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the facts until I was already a man, by then to me it was only blinding. The opinions betray you because they belong to me.

 

[ilitical]

YES, but he has 50 now, let us see where this goes

enough. I didn't join to send a PM. I had 50 earlier. Sent a PM, and guess what, still posting, and not just here. I will continue to post, because this is a forum.

 

[Bunnykid68]

 

[KG1]

yes, that is my point

Just curious. Would this opinion that the "lawfully possessed" phrase giving the mandate to take possession and run the numbers be something that a Dept. policy directive pushes or should it be something left up to an individual officer in the field to interpret this "grey area" as such?

Is'nt this after all the objective of the OP to determine exactly what constitutes Dept policy regarding the individual officer"s conduct in the field?'

 

[ilitical]

Shenanigans. Its illegal to possess any stolen property. That doesn't give LE carte blanche to stop everyone walking on the sidewalk and run the serial numbers on their phone or iPods.

Agreed. He didn't stop OP because of stolen property. OP was stopped for speeding. The encounter went a slightly different way, as almost all do in one way or another, and the events transpired.

 

[ilitical]

Just curious. Would this opinion that the "lawfully possessed" phrase giving the mandate to take possession and run the numbers be something that a Dept. policy directive pushes or should it be something left up to an individual officer in the field to interpret this "grey area" as such?

Is'nt this after all the objective of the OP to determine exactly what constitutes Dept policy regarding the individual officer"s conduct in the field?'

That is a great point. Department by Department would very, Officer discretion comes into play as well.

 

[ATM]

Oh, so you think opinion is your ally? But you were merely adopted by opinions. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the facts until I was already a man, by then to me it was only blinding. The opinions betray you because they belong to me.

That's what I thought.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Agreed. He didn't stop OP because of stolen property. OP was stopped for speeding. The encounter went a slightly different way, as almost all do in one way or another, and the illegal events transpired.

FTFY

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Oh, so you think opinion is your ally? But you were merely adopted by opinions. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the facts until I was already a man, by then to me it was only blinding. The opinions betray you because they belong to me.

I need to drink more because I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Bunnykid68]

enough. I didn't join to send a PM. I had 50 earlier. Sent a PM, and guess what, still posting, and not just here. I will continue to post, because this is a forum.

Still posting, waiting on a response from whatever it is you are interested in