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    Everyone reacts and takes things differently. If they do not let you in because of a tattoo, well they have every right not to. No one said life was fair.
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    Perhaps the cultural differences between Military and Civilians?

    I'd say it's more the fact that you're living in close quarters, performing your jobs together, and have a sense of common purpose (the Corps, the mission, the unit - whatever it may be) which transcends the minor differences of race - or even culture.

    Humans always have to find differences each other. The ancient Romans didn't care what color a person was; what mattered was if one was a Roman Citizen. The Islamics look upon "infidels" of any race as inferiors. The Chinese and Japanese look upon everyone else as "barbarians". In Russia, they hate the 'Black Asses' (Chechens). In America, "the Race Problem" is largely an artificial one. It's fostered by one group or another for personal power or advantage. In a close-knit unit, you don't have the time or the inclination for that crap, unless you're just looking for trouble. If your personal employment situation is such that you work frequent, irregular hours with persons of other races or cultures, chances are the things you're most concerned about are: will he/can he do his job?

    This willingness to ignore racial/cultural differences isn't even new. Black soldiers were bringing back white European and Asian brides when I was in the Army in the '70s; not much attention was paid to it in the military culture. American troops (some of them) trained and led indigenous troops and got along very well with the ones who had some shared values and traits.

    The fact that we largely segregate ourselves, if allowed, adds to the difficulty of assimilation and homogenization of the national culture. In part, this is because people naturally want to feel comfortable with those who share the values with which they grew up. It's also because, in part, those who would dominate us seek to emphasize our differences and keep us splintered into small groups which can be better controlled. The circumstances under which the military community lives make those segregations difficult to maintain.
     
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    I'd say it's more the fact that you're living in close quarters, performing your jobs together, and have a sense of common purpose (the Corps, the mission, the unit - whatever it may be) which transcends the minor differences of race - or even culture.

    Then wouldnt it make more sense to Segregate, instead of discrimminating?

    Humans always have to find differences each other. The ancient Romans didn't care what color a person was; what mattered was if one was a Roman Citizen.

    Not true brother. Romans had a great disdain for people who looked differently. We see alot of this clearly in the wars with the Northern Barbarians (Germanic tribes).

    I believe a book called "Barbarians" speak about this the tensions.

    Rome handed out citizenship to those who would support Rome, in alien Nations.

    The fact that we largely segregate ourselves, if allowed, adds to the difficulty of assimilation and homogenization of the national culture.

    Multiculturalism/Diversity has historically proven to be a failure, if not deadly to the Nation who allowed it.

    Iran or Persia is a perfect example of it, once great. But under Xerxes, he allowed more non-persians to uproot the Persians, and now we see the outcome of that problem.

    The fact that we do segregate, naturally should be suspect of the differences in people. Not that it's bad, but WHY.
    Cultural? Desire? Emotion? Safety?

    That is natural, forcing people to be together is unnatural.

    Rome learned the lession, as did the Huns, Persians, Turks, Mongols etc.

    In part, this is because people naturally want to feel comfortable with those who share the values with which they grew up. It's also because, in part, those who would dominate us seek to emphasize our differences and keep us splintered into small groups which can be better controlled.

    You are certainlly correct on this

    The circumstances under which the military community lives make those segregations difficult to maintain.

    And thus we have the problems we do. Blacks feeling offended about certain tattoos. Whites feeling uncomfortable with certain standards, cultural practices etc.
     
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